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SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

(OP)
We just upgraded from SW2004 sp5.0 to SW2006 sp2.0

Now Cosmetic Threads are not displaying in any of our drawings (across multiple Users for both New and existing SW2004 drawings).

Can anyone help or confirm this problem?

Thanks,
Ken

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

Upgrade or new install? Hopefully, new!


Helpful SW websites  FAQ559-520
How to get answers to your SW questions  FAQ559-1091

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

(OP)
Our Admin guy siad that he did the following (in this order):
1) Fresh install of SW2006
2) Removed SW2004

Thanks,
Ken

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

(OP)
We just got a response from our VAR. They said that we have to redo our Drawing Templates (files and titleblocks), and redo any existing drawings that we want the cosmetic thread to appear in. We told him this was unacceptable, and they are currently supposed to be in contact with SW about resolving this issue.

No one else has seen this?

Ken

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

If you start a new file using the standard SW templates does it work or not?

This will answer a lot of questions on whether it's your templates or not.

Otherwise I am not seeing this nor have the customers I have talked with.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

Ken,

Are the drawings of parts or assemblies?  Starting with SW2005, cosmetic threads have to be inserted into drawings of assemblies.  You will find that the cosmetic thread icon only appears in the insert model items for assemblies.

Regards,

Regg

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

I had some older drawings where the cosmetic thread no longer showed. By clicking on  "edit feature" and then exiting the command, the threads showed up. I don't recall if this was a part or an assembly, but I think it has been both. I will be watching for it next time.

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

Do you have the Annotations setup correctly? you should have display annotations set on.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

(OP)
The cosmetic threads show up fine in part and assembly files. But when I drop any of those parts or assemblies into one of our drawing templates...we do not get any cosmetic threads. If I drop one of those parts or assemblies into a default drawing template...we do get cosmetic threads. And all of our existing drawings no longer show cosmetic thread, and we were told we would have to redo the drawings in order to get the cosmetic thread to show.

Thanks for the input,
Ken

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

KenBolen

I was told that in the Drawing, if you set the Layer setting to NONE.  Then, under MODEL ITEMS deselect everything but for the Cometic Thread option and set the LAYER setting to NONE.  The Cosmetic Thread will appear in the Drawing.  I'm using SW2005, SP5.0, hope this helps.

Cheers,

Ralph Wright, CSWP
SolidWorks 2005, SP5.0
P4, 2.53Ghz
1.5 Gb RAM
ATI Fire GL8800 Card
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RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

Ken,

If you read the help it's not suppose to work that away. You must do an Insert\Model items\Cosmetic thread. This is located under the Cosmetic thread help... from the help:

Quote:

Cosmetic threads in part documents are inserted automatically into drawing views. A thread callout is also inserted if the drawing document is in ANSI standard. (You insert thread callouts in the Cosmetic Thread PropertyManager, but they appear only in drawing documents.) Thread callouts are not used in ISO, JIS, or other standards, but you can show them with Insert Callout on the shortcut menu (see the next paragraph). To insert cosmetic threads from assembly documents into drawings, click Insert, Model Items and click Cosmetic thread . In ANSI drawings, one copy of a cosmetic thread callout is also imported into a sheet.

It's done this away to increase performance.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

(OP)
SBaugh,

I don't think I quite understood your last reply, to be more specific...

Quote:

Cosmetic threads in part documents are inserted automatically into drawing views.
-->This is not happening.

Quote:


To insert cosmetic threads from assembly documents into drawings, click Insert, Model Items and click Cosmetic thread.
-->Inserting assemblies into our drawing templates used to automatically generate the cosmetic thread. And even now if I insert and assembly to one of the SW standard templates it still does. But if I insert an assembly to one of our drawing templates since we switched to SW2006...there are no cosmetic threads.

Quote:


Insert, Model Items and click Cosmetic thread.
-->I do not see this in the dialog in SW2006.

Also, some Users can get the cosmetic thread to highlight if they hover over it, but it disappears again once they move their mouse. This is only on drawings there were created with our templates in SW2006.

Yesterday we redid our templates (starting with the standard drawing templates from SW2006) and everything works ok now (for any newly created drawings). We are in the process of redoing all the drawings that were done since we switched to SW2006 (ouch!) with the new templates.

We still don't understand why our templates that have worked since at least SW2001 did not work with SW2006.

Thanks for your help,
Ken

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

It's suppose to insert into Part drawings... have you test the standard drawing templates that come with SW yet?

In SW06 it is not suppose to import Cosmetic threads to assembly drawings. If yours is then I'm not sure why.

You will only get this option then you are trying to insert a cosmetic thread in an assembly drawing file (Annotations) not a part, since the part is suppose to pull the cosmetic thread in Automatically.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

I dug this up from thread559-106598.  You mught be able to use it to fix the broken drawings by copying the options from a drawing that works to the ones that don't.  I have never tried it, so no guarantees.

http://swtools.cad.de/mac_copyopt.htm

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

(OP)
We figured it out. I guess you could call it User error, but it's kind of questionable. What happened is this:

For Part and Assembly files, if you go to View/Types and look at all of the available choices...there is a toggle to Show or Hide "All Annotations". Good, we all know that.

For Drawing files, if you go to View\Types\ and look at all of the available choices...there is not an option to Show or Hide "All Annotations". From what we could find there is no User Interface anywhere that would allow the User to Hide (and then subsequently Show) the "All Annotations", therefore they "should" always be shown in drawing files. But you can toggle the Hidden/Shown status of "All Annotations" in drawings with the API. So at some point, we (actually most likely I) ran a macro that set the "All Annotations" to Hidden in our drawing templates. And it looks like SW2004 ignored this setting, and showed the "All Annotations" no matter what it was set to. But in SW2006, SolidWorks actually looks at this value and Uses it. Therefore, any of our drawings that were created from our template that had the "All Annotations" set to hidden, will not display Cosmetic Threads.

The fix for us was to put this line in a macro that runs whenever a drawing file is opened:

CODE

swModel.SetUserPreferenceToggle 197, True 'Show All Annotations

Thanks all for your input, hopefully no one else will run into this.
Ken






RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

Ken, when you said that you redid your templates and then everything worked after that, what did you update in your templates ?   I'm just curious because I was having the same problem with the threads.  I am also going to try the macro you gave.

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

(OP)
By re-doing the templates I meant...

We started with the (working) native SW drawing template, then modified the title block to match our standard. We then did a SaveAs and replaced our existing company drawing template. Repeat for each drawing size (B, D, and E for us).

Ken

RE: SW2006 sp2.0 Not Displaying Cosmetic Thread in Drawings

(OP)
Something else to point out here...

As Regg stated above

Quote:

Are the drawings of parts or assemblies?  Starting with SW2005, cosmetic threads have to be inserted into drawings of assemblies.  You will find that the cosmetic thread icon only appears in the insert model items for assemblies.

Ken

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