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What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?
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What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

(OP)
A little homage to Jeopardy...

When asked what your greatest weakness is, during an interview, do you give the patent "I'm a perfectionist" answer or something truthful and original?

My real greatest weakness is getting careless because of monotony or boredom due to repetitive work.  I'm razor-sharp when it's something exciting or new and challenging.  The mind starts to wander when I get bored though.

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

While this is an honest answer and may even be useful to an employer, I would not suggest using it.  Not to be dishonest, but that it is a general trait and you are telling your prospective new employer what you will and will not stand for.  That is bad idea and is not straightforward, I think it is underhanded.

 Instead, state that you like new and different challenges.  For a weakness you should either not answer the question, or give a weakness that is unique to you and that matters to the employer and does not give some sort of veiled threat.

 For instance, you are working on getting better at estimating the time it takes to complete a project.  Maybe you always underestimate, or maybe you are like Scotty on Star Trek, and chronically overestimate a project must to hear those words from the captain that you are a miracle worker.

You can word a weakness in terms o what you are activly doing to improve that trait.

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

"I'm a perfectionist" can be a death knell for job prospects in some cases.  Engineering is about compromise (i.e. "cheap-fast-good: pick 2").  Do some sincere self-examination, then formulate an answer that shows you have done some sincere self-examination.

Quote (proletariat):

My real greatest weakness is getting careless because of monotony or boredom due to repetitive work.  I'm razor-sharp when it's something exciting or new and challenging.  The mind starts to wander when I get bored though.
Hardly unique.  Still, it has possibilities.  Start with that, and segue into how you've trained yourself to work through this shortcoming.

I could be the world's greatest underachiever, if I could just learn to apply myself.
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RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

One of the rules of spacecraft design:

'Better' is the enemy of 'good enough'.

A few times in 20 years I have been able to deliver the perfect spec for a part, but I'd say 90% or more of the time 'good enough', today, is far more useful to everyone else than 'slightly better' tomorrow.

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Greg Locock

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RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

I personally hate these types of interviews. Stupid questions that are conidered to be intelectual. Find out what the person is capable of in the line of work...period!

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

Well, I don't think the question is to find out the actual weakness of the candidate.  It's more of trying to find out more about the person being interviewed.  You need to be honest enough - i.e. don't tell such a fantastic lie that somebody can easily find out, nor tell a weakness which can hamper your getting in.  I'm sure everybody has more than one weakness.  Let them know one of the weaknesses and how you have identified and have overcome the same or it could even be how you are trying to overcome the same.

HVAC68

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

So Angelo, if someone said they showered once a week and changed thair clothes once a month you'd consider that irrelevant?

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RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

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I had an interview once where this question came up. My first response was to say, "Is this where I am supposed to say 'Sometimes I work too hard and I am a bit of a perfectionist.'?". OK, so they didn't laugh out loud, but it gave the interviewer confidence that the "real" answer that follows is genuine.

My answer was

"Sometimes I find a solution to a problem which works, but I then realise that there is a better or more efficient way of doing it. I am then tempted to try the 'better' way of doing it when the original way worked fine thus potentially wasting time and effort. I have to force myself stop and think, 'Is it worth it?'."

While on the face of it this may look like "I am a perfectionist", what it really says is "I am always looking for a better way of doing things." Which is pretty much always a good thing from the employer's point of view. Additionally it shows that you are aware that in business, being good enough is sometimes just that - good enough. The final senetence says that you recognise the potential conflict and you are able to control it.

I got the job.

M

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Dr Michael F Platten

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

Mike,
If your weakness is wasting precious time on trying to improve something that works fine rather than doing something more useful (OK, _even_ more useful), that would not be a good thing from the employer's point of view.
If you spent some time to improve something and made millions of dollars with it, that would be a good thing, but then it wouldn't be much of a weakness, would it?
Why shouldn't one simply answer the question honestly and be done with it? I am tempted to think that an experienced interviewer has heard your version a dozen times before.

Being a perfectionist is a beautiful thing. Being a perfectionist and having a three pages long job list that keeps growing longer and longer while deadlines are passed and insufficient results are obtained is disastrous.

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

I thought I was being honest! The good thing is to be always striving to find something better. The bad thing is it not being appropriate in some situations. The compromise of being able to recognise "when to do what" is what really matters most to the employer and is perhaps the biggest positive.

It is a genuine weakness but it is one that you are able to control.

M

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Dr Michael F Platten

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

What MikeyP is trying to say is that he has a weakness for "turd polishing".

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

Only if it is an interesting turd. A boring turd can be left with a matt finish as far as I am concerned smile

M

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Dr Michael F Platten

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

My wiseass posting obviously does not mean that I would not be tempted to polish an interested turd myself from time to time
winky smile

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

Try this: "My greatest weakness is that I have a very low tolerance for incompetence."

Maui

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

reminds me of Grouchos's "I wouldn't be a member of any country club that would accept me as a member."

TTFN



RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

And having a low tolerance for incompetence is a weakness??

rmw

PS Maui, I thought it was a great answer.  I gave you a star.  I just had to make the wisecrack.

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

(OP)
The answer I have used in practice is:

"I pay too much attention to detail, so I have to self-check sometimes to keep the big picture in sight."

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?


I hate that interview question.  I was asked it once.  I answered very honestly.  I said that I get in a slump from time to time.  I didn't get a job offer.  Of course the whole interview was a big mess anyways so I don't think its fair to blame it on my answer to that one question.

I haven't been asked the question since, but I often wonder how I'd answer it next time.  I really would like to stick with the honest answer because that's what I believe in.  I want an employer who is realistic. Someone who realizes that everyone has weaknesses.  Someone who will not "punish" you for giving an honest answer and instead reward you for it.

I once had the opportunity to interview draftsmen for a new opening in my company and I actually thought of using that question simply to weed out the bull sh*ters.  I was going to ask it to see who would have the guts to give an honest answer and who would try to weasel out of it by giving the text book bs answer.  I didn't ask the question though.  I guess I'm too nice of a guy.  I hate being asked that question so I decided to leave it out.

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

Good on ya bradpa77.

I agree with you. If you don't value the question, why ask it?

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

How about, "My biggest weakness is that I don't interview well. I perform much better than I come across when I'm  interviewed."

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

Interesting answer... Triggers the next question: "Why?
If you have a problem coming across in an interview, would you have a problem coming across when discussing with customers? your boss? your colleagues? Are you a bit of a communicator or not at all?"
Not sure if that's a weakness you would want to have.

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?


wgchere,

very clever answer.  Never heard that one before.  However ...

epoisses,

I've heard of interviewers doing that sort of thing.  They can sense a reheased answer from a mile away.  If they feel that their question is being dodged they will ask you to eloborate (as you have just shown) or they will ask for your second worst weakness ... then third ... then fourth ... until you've run out of scripted answers and finally have to give a heartfelt answer.  I never had this happen to me personally, but it was brought up in an interviewing book I once read.



This thread has me all hot under the collar about that interview question now.  The more I think about it, the more I hate the interview question.  It's a lose/lose situation.  Either you are honest and show a part of you that you would rather not reveal or you use the textbook answer and risk coming off as being sneaky or as if you have something to hide.  I just don't understand the reason for asking the question in the first place.  Every interviewer has to know that they are going to get a less than honest answer to that question.  For us engineering types, it's not really that relevant to our potential performance on the job in question.  It really only proves how well you can weasel out of a tricky question.  Which, in my opinion, is not a desirable trait to have in an engineer anyways.  If I were in charge, I wouldn't want engineers on my team who are good at bs.  I'd want honest workers who are willing to stick their necks out from time to time and accept the responsiblity of their own shortcomings.  I suppose that's why I answer the question honestly.  Hopefully it doesn't backfire on me someday and keep me from getting a job that I really want or need.

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

bradpa77,

If it does mean you didn't get the job, it may also be a blessing in disguise - you won't be working with people who do not share your points of views/values.

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

My largest weakness is my refusal to talk about my weakness.

Charlie
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RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?


Q: "Largest Weakness?"

A: "My uncanny ability to ignore my weaknesses."

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

Maybe next time...

"My worst weakness used to be that I would voluntarily reveal my shortcomings and weaken whatever position I may have had in a situation.  It's not a weakness anymore, though."

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

Well Tick that is nearly the perfect answer, one more loop of spaghetti logic in there and we'll explode the interviewer's brain. Which would at least generate a further vacancy in the company.

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RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

The answer that I gave above is honest, and was actually used in my last interview. I got the job.

Maui

RE: What is, "I'm a perfectionist," Alex?

Maui,

Congratulation on getting your new job.

I hope for everyone's sake that the all the people you work with are competent.

"Do not worry about your problems with mathematics, I assure you mine are far greater."   
Albert Einstein
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