Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
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Hi, I've been negotiating the purchase of Solidworks 2006 today for my company. For cost/budget constraints, I wasn't going to purchase maintenence yet, and the person I'm buying the software from claims SP1 is the latest release, yet people here are discussing SP2.
Is SP2 out, or is it still in an "evalutation" release? It's my understanding that I won't be able to download service packs for 2006 without a maintenence contract.
Any other thoughts or buying suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Is SP2 out, or is it still in an "evalutation" release? It's my understanding that I won't be able to download service packs for 2006 without a maintenence contract.
Any other thoughts or buying suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.






RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
To answer your question, SP2.0 is officially out, but without a current maintenance plan, I doubt you'll be able to get your hands on it unless you have a very generous VAR.
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
I assumed we would get the SP0 CD's and a serial number that would work with the SP1 patch. I guess I'll try to get up to SP2.
Thanks for the information.
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
Also keep in mind that if you decide to upgrade in the future, you will pay extra depending on the version you're on which will pretty much equal being on maintenance the whole time. So not paying maint. doesn't help if you still plan to upgrade later.
Jason
UG NX2.02.2 on Win2000 SP3
SolidWorks 2005 SP5.0 on WinXP SP2
SolidWorks 2006 SP1.0 on WinXP SP2
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
Your serial number will never change, unless you change Bundles. The Reg code is the only thing that needs updated one major version to the next. SP will not require a new Reg code. If you bought SNL then you will have to get a new License file ever year in or out of Maintenance… either way your Serial will not change.
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
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What sort of percentage price differences to people usually see between standard Solidworks and Solidworks Office? Maintenance and software?
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
What are you looking for in the SW package... bundle and add-ins. Do you plan to purchase maintainence. If you have never used the software I believe that alone is worth getting for that, and also for major updates. Because if you find a bug in the software and there is a workaround, no matter how painful you will not be given the next SP or major upgrade that fixes the issue. Because a workaround is a workaround and if that gets you around the issue, then it's solved... no matter how painful it maybe.
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
I don't know if I will use most of the other additions in SW Office, so I haven't decided if that's worth it yet.
Our current quotes for Solidworks has yearly maintenance running at 1/3 the cost of the software! We have seats of Altium Designer which is sold now for $12000 for an initial license, but with only $1500 a year maintenance.
Basically, I wasn't expecting maintenance to be so high for Solidworks. I use Altium Designer daily (hourly), but I'll probably be using Solidworks once a month.
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
I'd second Scott's opinion: If you've never used the software before, you should really consider maintenance for at least one year so that you have access to Tech Support.
I started Solidworks with several years of experience with some of its competitors but still found myself on the phone quite a bit during those first few months.
Now, my maintenance contract is basically just to ensure I don't get stuck with a buggy release.
FWIW, when I purchased my first license, our CDs were SP3.
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RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
Jason
UG NX2.02.2 on Win2000 SP3
SolidWorks 2005 SP5.0 on WinXP SP2
SolidWorks 2006 SP1.0 on WinXP SP2
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
If the a users CD's go bad and they are off Maintainance then we as a VAR will probably have to burn copies of the SP for them or CD's for them. We (I) keep all the SP's on a External HDD. for 2 versions, then I burn it all off onto a couple of CD's and keep them around incase someone asks for it.
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
I think having to be on maintenance for a patch or bug fix to the software version you are running is a crock.
Lets say you bought 05 SP0 right when it was released and could not afford maintenance. SW is just gonna stick you with this bug filled initial release or you gotta be buddy buddy with a var to get a patch. The whole maintenance subscription for SP's thing is set up to help the vars make money since the vars are out there pounding the pavement to create new users.
I'm on maintenance because you get new releases, because solidworks has no backwards compatability with earlier versions, and because my company pays for it without thinking twice.
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
When Windows XP was released I bought it for my computer at home. Since then SP1 and SP2 have been released and I was able to download them from Microsoft website and install them without having to pay for them or being on maintenance. So I'm not so sure about Micro$oft but I am pretty sure about $olidWork$.
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
Yep. They expect to earn money just like everybody else. The VARs, Solidworks, and DSI are all looking to maximize their profits...just like your company and mine.
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RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
Honestly, unless you're having problems or have a specific enhancement request the maintenance doesn't help you that much.
Besides dogarila - how much of your soul did you sell to Microsoft for their patches? (end rant, I love Windows XP)
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
"Sometimes my car will not go faster than 30 mph.. Also my headlights just quit working and I have to pull over and turn the car off and turn it back on to get them to work. Even though the manual says I can carry five people comfortably, if I carry more than 2 people at a time the engine starts to stall."
"I'm sorry sir, but there's nothing we can do for you, but you can pay us to fix it"
"BUT I JUST BOUGHT IT LAST WEEK!"
Okay, maybe no tech support for SW, but what about including the SP's for that version, for example the SP's for SW05?
Flores
SW06 SP2.0
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
This seems like a crock. Any thoughts?
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
If you're ready to cut the PO - seriously - then he'll probably do what's needed to close the deal.
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RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
I had a typo in my previous post - this VAR told me I only get SP0 unless I purchase maintenance in the next 6 months. Not even SP1, much less SP2.
I would like to know, after Scott's post (two above), is if I'm being scammed into buying maintenance? This VAR should have to offer me the SP's for SW06 if I'm entitled to them.
I'd rather lose my nice deal and go elsewhere than deal with someone that would do that.
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
I'm not trying to downplay your situation, but have you ever dealt with PTC sales? SolidWorks VAR's are positively tame by comparison.
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
So, am I entitled through this VAR to get SP2 or SP1 for Solidworks 2006 even if I don't buy maintenance now, and if I don't give him a "promise" to buy maintenance in the next 6 months?
I don't mind pushy or uninformed sales people, but I do mind getting lied to.
There is some conflicting information in this thread:
PDMAdmin: "All we ever get is the SP0.0 CD's. Anything you want above and beyond that would require a maintenance plan.
To answer your question, SP2.0 is officially out, but without a current maintenance plan, I doubt you'll be able to get your hands on it unless you have a very generous VAR."
SBaugh: "You are entitled to the latest SP if it's out when you purchase it."
SBaugh: "FYI: Those off Subscription or did not purchase are entitled to the free software updates of the same version which you had purchased. So if you purchase SW06 you are entitled to all SP of SW06. You will have to Contact your VAR to get those Upgrades."
I guess the generosity of the VAR determines what you are "entitled" to. Sort of missing the meaning of the word.
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
REgards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
Helpful SW websites FAQ559-520
How to get answers to your SW questions FAQ559-1091
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RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
Car manufacturers should allow dealerships to decide what to offer in factory and after-market warranties.
Regardless, people are advising me to take the bus.
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
If you get nowhere then take your business elsewhere. IMO it is completely ridiculous what this VAR is proposing. If you think about it they are saying that you can have a version of SW which they know needs 100MB worth of fixing - but you'll have to pay for it.
RE: Purchasing Solidworks 2006 - SP2.0 availability question
So you plan on purchasing SW and a plugin? http://www
The plugin is listed for $995, so with SW that is a pretty penny for something you will use "once a month".
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I don't have a clue about circuit boards, but you might want to post on the "Circuit engineering" forum forum240 to see what is most used in your industry.
Flores
SW06 SP2.0