×
INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS
FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Log In

Come Join Us!

Are you an
Engineering professional?
Join Eng-Tips Forums!
  • Talk With Other Members
  • Be Notified Of Responses
    To Your Posts
  • Keyword Search
  • One-Click Access To Your
    Favorite Forums
  • Automated Signatures
    On Your Posts
  • Best Of All, It's Free!
  • Students Click Here

*Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail.

Posting Guidelines

Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting is forbidden.

Students Click Here

Jobs

Shop certification for CSA B51

Shop certification for CSA B51

Shop certification for CSA B51

(OP)
For design, fabrication of pressure vessels in Canada, shop should have certification of CSA B51.

However, for fabrication of pipe spools to B31.3, B31.1 and  H type fittings ,shop certification to CSA B51 is not a mandatory requirement. Fitting used for fabricating spools must have CRN  number . Welding procedures to be used for fabrication of spools should comply with requirements of ASME Section IX and  certified by Department of labor of provience where fabrication shop is located.

I would appericate review and comments on above.

Thanks everyone in advance.


 

RE: Shop certification for CSA B51

I think you are asking if power piping or pressure piping needs to be registered; all pressure equipment built in Canada needs to follow Provincial rules, CSA- B51 and ASME codes. Piping it self does not have a CRN number, but CSA B51 4.17.2 states: “Where required by the regulatory authority in the province of installation, the piping fabricator or installer shall furnish acceptable piping data report to the regulatory authority.”
In Alberta piping system over 0.5m3 needs to be registered; it is a practice to fill out the paper work on systems under 0.5m3 but these systems is not under the PP numbers.
 I would contact your AIA for your province to see if your system needs registered.
ABSA here in Alberta has a good web site and in my opinion is second to none if you follow their rules you can’t go wrong,
www.absa.ca

RE: Shop certification for CSA B51

I believe if your shop is registered for boilers & pressure vessels, that will also cover you for pressure piping. The reverse is not the case, however. Our shop is registered for pressure piping, but not for boilers or vessels work.

In Ontario, shops performing pressure piping work (either contractors or in-house maintenance) are required to have an approved quality control manual in effect, and be issued a "Certificate Of Authorization" for the particular pressure piping code they're working to - B31.1, B31.3 and/or B31.5. Pressure piping assemblies are issued 'P' numbers by the TSSA.

RE: Shop certification for CSA B51

My experience in Alberta and Ontario has been similar.  We are an EPC contractor and do all of the piping design.  We register our design by submitting our Piping Specs, Line List (includes Desigh P and T and Test pressures, and P&ID's.  ABSA (alberta) or TSSA (ontario) then issues you a "P" number which is you r registration of your piping design.  The piping fabricators will need this number.  All valves, fitting, flow elemnts etc. will need to have a CRN number for the province.  Make sure it is for the specific province you are in, not all have CRN's for all provinces.

Talk directly to TSSA, ABSA etc.  They are usually more than helpful.

Red Flag This Post

Please let us know here why this post is inappropriate. Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework.

Red Flag Submitted

Thank you for helping keep Eng-Tips Forums free from inappropriate posts.
The Eng-Tips staff will check this out and take appropriate action.

Reply To This Thread

Posting in the Eng-Tips forums is a member-only feature.

Click Here to join Eng-Tips and talk with other members!


Resources