Dream Machine
Dream Machine
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Hi
1st time here
I have to build a client a couple of machines that is the absolute top of the line. A quick description of what I was thinking would be the FX3400 PCIE 256MB DDR3 vid card..
ATHLON 64 X2 DC 4800+ S939 ..@ 4 GB ram.. sataII ..
anything anyone would add to that to make it better for solidworks?
1st time here
I have to build a client a couple of machines that is the absolute top of the line. A quick description of what I was thinking would be the FX3400 PCIE 256MB DDR3 vid card..
ATHLON 64 X2 DC 4800+ S939 ..@ 4 GB ram.. sataII ..
anything anyone would add to that to make it better for solidworks?






RE: Dream Machine
FYI - DC will not improve SW performance even on 64 bit the only main improvement going to 64 bit is the advantage you will get with Memory. Speed will not be improved much at all.
I am sure I will be getting questions on the above statements.
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
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RE: Dream Machine
What? if they have Cosmos they will not be able to use it because Cosmos "Will NOT Run on the the AMD 64" If they don't have Cosmos it they will not be a problem.
However if they plan to purchase it, you will need to make them aware of this Limitation with the AMD64 chips... because if you don't you maybe held respondisble, because you are aware now of this limitation.
And why should they... SW does not support Dual CPU's (it's not multi-threaded) so it would be pointless in having them unless they had other software that they wanted to run outside of SW.
The only 2 left are the Opteron or the Intel, those are the only 2 left to decide from if they have Cosmos.
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
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Jeff Mowry
www.industrialdesignhaus.com
Reality is no respecter of good intentions.
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Pete
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In your first post you make no mention about the Mother Board. No matter what processer you end up choosing do not over look the mother board and the chip sets that they use. This can make a diffrence on how a computer performs.
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Is Cosmosworks unsupported in the sense that if I run into a problem then I can expect no help resolving it or is there an inherent problem with the way the software runs on an AMD 64?
Am I potentially seeing incorrect FEA results? Yikes!!!
Dave Gowans
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I have been and a colleage of mine that supports Cosmos has talked to guys out in Cal. that support CW with SW and they confirmed that the AMD64 will not run Cosmos. If you get it to run then that's great I guess, but you are using an unsupported CPU and they will not be able to support that.
You might want to contact your VAR and have them investigate. If you her something different then please let me know as I would like to know why there would be 2 bits of information being passed out.
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Dual CPUs has it's advantages and SW takes advantage of Dual CPU's where it can, but not enough to where you will see a much of a difference.
To do that they would have to rewrite the Software completely and they are not going to do that most likely.
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lazarosgreece,
You need to stop YELLING when you post. Turn of CAPS LOCK, this will make it easier on the rest of us and to also understand you are not yelling.
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
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I'll check out Cosmos Xpress tonight and see what kind of messages/results I get with my AMD X2 4800+. I had not been aware of this. This information is mysteriously missing from the SolidWorks website. Why would it not run on AMD 64? Seems to be very much a sore spot then for Cosmos compared to other packages - not running on some of the fastest mainstream hardware?? Won't be supported until 2008 version?? Whats that all about? Seems like they need to get on the ball. Maybe I'm way off on this one.
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Best Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
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Pete
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Windows XP Pro x64 won't run Cosmos, but the AMD 64-bit & windows XP Pro (32-bit) works great on every machine I tried.
Also check out the SPEC benchmarks:
http://www.spec.org/gpc/opc.data/vp81/sw-perf.html
A lot of opterons here, not? (Opteron is practically equal to high-end Athlon 64 cpu's)
Stefan Hamminga
Mesken BV
2005 Certified SolidWorks Professional
Mechanical designer/AI student
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"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943.
Have you read FAQ731-376 to make the best use of Eng-Tips Forums?
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I would recommend finding the very best (fastest) ram available. Also remember that no application in windows can go past 1,6 (or 2,6 with the 3GB switch on) of memory usage without crashing. So 4GB of ram sounds great, but be sure you can use it (eg. multitasking / windows x64).
Stefan Hamminga
Mesken BV
2005 Certified SolidWorks Professional
Mechanical designer/AI student
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is the motherboard i was thinking..
and it would be the 32-bit version of xppro not 64-bit OS
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Cosmos will not run AMD64 bit CPU's. They never mentioned anything about 64 OS.
I think it was clairfied in the first 2 posts, but I have clarified it once more.
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
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I hear these mix-ups between the cpu and running a true 64-bit OS every day & since (strangely) I seem to be able to run cosmos fine on AMD Athlon 64 cpu's on win32...
I'll go and do a some back2back runs between my A64 systems and some Pentium systems to verify the results (previous results compared pretty well)
Stefan Hamminga
Mesken BV
2005 Certified SolidWorks Professional
Mechanical designer/AI student
RE: Dream Machine
If you can prove that Cosmos will run on AMD 64 on both OS 64 and 32. I think you should call Cosmos directly or contact your VAR and have them call you, because I would like to know what the heck is going on...
I have felt since all this 64 bit stuff started people don't know or they are guessing if you have something you think is right, then you should have them look at your example.
Best Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
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Main System specs (08-11-2005):
CPU:
- AMD Athlon 64 4000+ Socket 939 "San Diego" Core
Mainboard:
- MSI K8N SLI Platinum
Memory:
- 2x 1GB DDR PC3200 CL2.5 Kingston
Hard Drives:
- 2x Western Digital Raptor WD740GD / nVidia RAID1
Video card:
- HP Quadro FX-1400 PCIe
Software:
- Windows XP Professional NL (regular 32-bit, including SP2 and all updates available via windows update)
- Microsoft Office 2003 Professional NL (fully updated as well)
- SolidWorks 2006 Premium SP 1.0
- CosmosWorks SP 1.0
- nTune (see drivers package)
Drivers (in installation order, versions: see package):
- nVidia SATA RAID
- nVidia LAN (without the firewall software)
- AMD CPU driver
- nVidia (beta) video driver
Links:
eDrawing:
http:/
Drivers:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hamming0/Drivers.zip
Model:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hamming0/Model.zip
Stefan Hamminga
Mesken BV
2005 Certified SolidWorks Professional
Mechanical designer/AI student