How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
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things should be simple
Man A tells Man B that he needs a subdivision designed
Man B tells his designer to design subdivision
The deisigner gives the completed design back to Man B
Man B reviews it...stamps it...and gives it to Man A
Man A pays Man B
wouldn't it be nice if things were this simple???
what is some potential problems with this scenerio??
workplace politics for the designer
too much brown nosing and lunches bought to get Man A to let Man B get the project in the first place
just wondering if you guys can come up with some situations that could go bad during this process???
Man A tells Man B that he needs a subdivision designed
Man B tells his designer to design subdivision
The deisigner gives the completed design back to Man B
Man B reviews it...stamps it...and gives it to Man A
Man A pays Man B
wouldn't it be nice if things were this simple???
what is some potential problems with this scenerio??
workplace politics for the designer
too much brown nosing and lunches bought to get Man A to let Man B get the project in the first place
just wondering if you guys can come up with some situations that could go bad during this process???





RE: How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
Therefore politics will be involved. Get used to it and learn to live with it.
Rick Kitson MBA P.Eng
Construction Project Management
From conception to completion
www.kitsonengineering.com
RE: How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
And if you eat lunch alone, pretty soon you won't eat lunch at all...
RE: How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
In systems engineering, we discuss the concept of "stakeholders" in the context of requirements development. So, even the question, "what are we designing?" is quite often rife with political overtones and undertones.
Even written specifications and requirements are often irrelevant, because critical stakeholders have unwritten and unvoiced expectations about the performance or features of a design that they want.
And, of course, customers and other stakeholders often lie outright about their true desires and requirements. Alternately, the same are often clueless about the actual requirements. So, politically, you may have to tell your customer that he's an idiot, but in a nice way, of course.
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RE: How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
RE: How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
If that isn't politics, what is?
Cheers
Greg Locock
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RE: How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
I remember very well that I was working on getting a cost estimate for a project. My boss told me the M$ cost could not be a double digit number. At that time I guess I was too much nuts and bolts and not enough politics and gave him the "so what part of the scope do you want to delete then". I couldn't get below 11 M$ and guess what, the project obviously wouldn't make it.
After I had pulled some of my hair out, I realised that politics are simply part of the game.
I suddenly realise that whenever my wife tells me she bought something at eBay the price is only a single digit number...?
RE: How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
RE: How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
RE: How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
RE: How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
I totally agree with you. One thing I noticed is citizens like the increase in home values but don't like what comes along with growth. I dislike the damage that uncontrolled growth causes.
RE: How much politics is involved in civil engineering?
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