Yet another energy saving attempt
Yet another energy saving attempt
(OP)
Hi
I had this device pointed out to me recently and found the test report rather amusing. By adding this device, you can get light and power out of a flourescent tube!!
Looks to me like yet another power factor correction device with flawed measurements, calculations and/or report.
http://www.monsterenergy.com.my/ for the device and http ://www.mon sterenergy .com.my/si rimreport/ index.html for the report.
Best regards,
I had this device pointed out to me recently and found the test report rather amusing. By adding this device, you can get light and power out of a flourescent tube!!
Looks to me like yet another power factor correction device with flawed measurements, calculations and/or report.
http://www.monsterenergy.com.my/ for the device and http
Best regards,
Mark Empson
http://www.lmphotonics.com





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Now do you mean all I have to do is hook a load up to a fluorescent tube and I can make it work?? Thats all I have to do?
If so send a million - who needs coal hydro or nuke plants with this? Distributed generation at it's best ??
Dan Bentler
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ScottyUK (Electrical)
Looking at the results of the test, one could almost be forgiven for thinking that the box of tricks is a capacitor. The PF goes from lagging to leading in each case: sometimes it takes a reasonable lagging PF and makes it into a lousy leading PF. Did they say this POS controlled something? I'm not sure how these charlatans an guarantee improvement - the test results show a worsening of the total VA loading in about half the instances shown!
electricpete (Electrical)
According to http://www.sirim-qas.com.my/
machmech (Industrial)
Jraef what was that Latin quote of yours? A snake oil salesman can not thrive without the ignorance of the populace.
jraef (Electrical)
Exactly...
LionelHutz (Electrical)
Hmmm, last time I checked changing the power factor didn't affect the kW usage of an electrical device or the kW charges from the utility.
jraef (Electrical)
I'd bet my bottom dollar that you would never get one. They are not interested in having real engineers get a good look at this.
jraef (Electrical)
I especially love the "-73W" when you plug it in to 2 fluorescent lamps. over unity power production! Here we have been spending billions and billions on a fusion reactor that will produce more power than it consumes, and these guys did it with a little plastic box!
electricpete (Electrical)
I think you guys are too close-minded to the vast possibilities of new technologies which can do things we previously thought were impossible.
//electric pete1.trip od.com/roc kwell_auto mation.wmv
jraef (Electrical)
E-pete,
stevenal (Electrical)
Just do a search on "retro confabulator"
electricpete (Electrical)
Aha. I see Steve has already scoped out this cutting edge technology in thread238-133432
rmw (Mechanical)
I liked the retro confabulator so much I bought the company.
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"SIRIM QAS International Sdn. Bhd., a company incorporated under the Companies Act 1965, is a wholly owned subsidiary of SIRIM Berhad. As the leading certification, inspection and testing body in Malaysia , SIRIM QAS International Sdn. Bhd. has achieved wide recognition nationally and internationally."
I tend to believe these claims about the testing agency since google shows many other company website claiming certification by SIRIM-QAS.
The watts went down for every test on page 5 of 7, in some cases negative presumably meaning the combined load and devices were putting out power.
I wonder if maybe the version tested had some batteries inside the box to supply real power.
Also strange that voltage is not tabulated.
I tend to agree with jraef. There probably is a conspiracy in the US to keep this device secret so it won't hurt the profits of utilities and the energy industry. After all, look what they did to that $5,000 150 mpg car? You haven't seen it have you? Proves my point.
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The results in their report are interesting. I'd like to see a wiring drawing of their test setup that allowed them to measure the thing creating power.
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Damn, coulda spent that money on health care...
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Devices using a similar principle have recently been developed and are now being marketed in a similar form by respectable names like Rockwell.
Below is a link to a 4mb video – definitely worth a look if you have broadband or dialup with a lot of time.
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All I get is this
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For the most objective view, you should view the link with a serious eye toward understanding the technology before you read the comments in that thread.
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