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Calculation of Section Slenderness for a Member Subject to Bending

axle (Civil/Environmental) (OP) 
7 Oct 05 1:30 
Hi there, I am looking for some guidance in regards to the calculation of the section slenderness of a member subject to bending in accordance with AS41001998. My query is in how Table 5.2 is applied to bending of the section about both the major xaxis and minor yaxis. For the purposes of this discussion I will use a standard I section (Universal beam or column etc).
For Bending About the Major XAxis:
For a standard Isection bent about the major xaxis, there are two different types of flat compression plate elements, these being the flange outstands and the web. I understand how to calculate the plate element slenderness of each of these components. My uncertainty is the stress distribution present in the plate element due to the section being bent about the xaxis (i.e. uniform compression, maximum compression at unsupported edge, zero stress or tension at supported edge etc). Is this stress distribution the stress distribution between the plate elements ends/supports? For example for the flange outstands is this the stress distribution from the supported edge to the free edge and for the web is this the stress distribution from the supported edge to the other supported edge? Assuming that this is the case, then for bending about the major xaxis, in accordance with Table 5.2 the flange outstands will be in uniform compression and the web will have compression at one edge, tension at the other. Is this correct? Calculating the section slenderness for a standard BHP Universal Beam bent about the xaxis using these assumptions gives results that correlate with those listed in the BHP catalogue.
For Bending About the Major YAxis:
This is where I run into problems. If I use the same assumptions as those used for bending of the section about the xaxis (i.e. the stress distribution is the stress distribution between the plate elements ends/supports) and try to calculate the section slenderness for a standard BHP Universal Beam bent about the yaxis I cannot achieve results that correlate to the BHP catalogue. Are both the flange outstands and web used to calculate the section slenderness when the section is bent about the yaxis? Are the plate element slenderness values for each element used for bending about the xaxis the same as for bending about the yaxis?
Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated as I would like to fully understand how the section slenderness of a member subject to bending is determined so that I can apply the theory to non standard beam sections that do not have their effective section properties listed in a book or otherwise if I am required to do so. Thanking you for your time.


dbuzz (Structural) 
10 Oct 05 5:20 
I think you may be making a mistake in the calculation. The stress distribution is different for the two cases. For bending about the xaxis, the compression flange element is in uniform compression. For bending about the yaxis, there is maximum compression at the flange tip and zero stress at the flange root.
By way of example, consider a 310UB32.
Section properties d = 298 mm b_{f} = 149 mm t_{f} = 8.0 mm t_{w} = 5.5 mm (b_{f}  t_{w})/(2 x t_{f}) = 8.97 mm Z_{x} = 424x10^{3} mm^{3} S_{x} = 475x10^{3} mm^{3} Z_{y} = 59.3x10^{3} mm^{3} S_{y} = 91.8x10^{3} mm^{3} f_{y} = 320 MPa
For bending about the xaxis: λ_{e} = 8.97 x √(320/250) = 10.2 λ_{ep} = 9 λ_{ey} = 16 λ_{ep} < λ_{e} < λ_{ey}, therefore section in noncompact Z_{cx} = 475x10^{3} mm^{3} Z_{ex} = 424x10^{3} + [(16  10.2)/(16  9)] x (475x10^{3}  424x10^{3}) = 467x10^{3} mm^{3}
For bending about the yaxis: λ_{e} = 10.2 λ_{ep} = 9 λ_{ey} = 25 λ_{ep} < λ_{e} < λ_{ey}, therefore section in noncompact Z_{cy} = 89.0x10^{3} mm^{3} Z_{ey} = 59.3x10^{3} + [(25  10.2)/(25  9)] x (89.0x10^{3}  59.3x10^{3}) = 86.9x10^{3} mm^{3}
Hope this example helps you. 



