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Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
Ok, I created a model and made a drawing from it.  It had a bleed hole in it.  All was well.  Then I created a second model and it also had a bleed hole in it, but slightly different.  I imported two views of the new part and now when I try and dim the bleed hole I just get then following message:
Selected silhouette cann not be unique identifiedfor curret operation.  Please reate a split line by using splitline operation with the shilhoutette operation.
Why am I getting this in the second model ONLY?  I have tried replacing the bleed hole and I still get this message.  Why did it work in the first model?  What does this error mean?  Thank you in advance to anyone who helps out here.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

I have seen this once. You may find that someday when you open the first part dwg, you will get that message...or not. Create the split line then dim it. You may want to do it for both parts.

Chris
Sr. Mechanical Designer, CAD
SolidWorks 05 SP3.1 / PDMWorks 05
ctopher's home site (updated 06-21-05)
FAQ559-1100
FAQ559-716

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
I have never seen anything like this, until I started to work with SW.  I will see what I can do with it and try it and hopefully in a few days it will work.  Thanks.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
FYI, it did not work, what a  surprise.  I think I will just delete both files and start all over again, from scratch.   

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

You said it was slightly different... then the first one has something it that the second doesn't and that is why one works and one doesn't.

It's to hard to say what the issue is without seeing this. You should send this to your VAR. So they can help you with this issue further and you can send them your files for them to see what it is you are talking about.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
The only thing different is the size and number of drills, one has three and the other has five and the largest drill is .070 bigger.  Thanks anyway, I will remake this mess in the AM.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

Was this done it hold wizard or cut-extrude? If hole wizard I don't think it will allow you to do split line. If cut-extrude it should work.

Chris
Sr. Mechanical Designer, CAD
SolidWorks 05 SP3.1 / PDMWorks 05
ctopher's home site (updated 06-21-05)
FAQ559-1100
FAQ559-716

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

What are you trying to dimension? Diameter? location? Sounds like the view is not normal to the model and you're getting an ellipse which results in a spline edge.

Post a pic if you can.

Jason

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

Turn on (show) the underlying sketch for the hole location, and dimension to the sketch point. Now hide the sketch.

Should work and not turn bad to an error later...hopefully ,
Ken

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
Thank you for the responses.  I have not been able to get the hole wiz to create any holes like this, so I used an extrude cut to create it.  In the drawing it was the left view and I had turn hidden lines on for that feature and I was just trying to get the diameter of the bleed hole.  It had worked in several previous parts but suddenly in this part it could not pick-up the edge and displayed the above message.  Last night I destroyed both the drawing and the model and went back to scratch and this time I coupled the steps of the previous tee-couple, exactly and this morning it worked.  Split lines did nothing for the ablility to dim the bleed hole, either.  Well, in two days they are going to make me the ginny pig for SW 2006, it can't be any wose than what I have gone thru with 2005.  Thanks again.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

I bet you the left hand view was slightly twisted or skewed in the drawing. When this happens SW will not be able to solve for the dimension and edges you have picked.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
Thank you for the response.  Dare I ask how can that happen?  How can you cure it?  I just imported the left view and slide it side to side and up and down and then aliegned it to the front view, horizontally.  I have never seen that happen in any other CAD system that I have worked with.  Thanks again.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

It could be a result from the model itself. It's possible that the model was skewed. You can either designed it that away (probably not the case) or you could have acciedently set the orientation off. You can set this by updating the views in the model. One way is by pushing the space bar and then highlighting a view and clicking the middle telescope in the menu that pops up. Once accepted your model has changed views orineation. Or it could have been a series of keystrokes.

We will never exactly know as the files are gone.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
Thanks, I thought everything was fully constrand, before and after extruding it.  Oh well, no sense crying over spilled milk, I have a feeling that there are bigger things coming at me to cry over.  Thanks again I appreciate the help.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

This is a part, not an assy right. If it's a part, then a skewed view is unlikely. Maybe the feature was skewed in some way.

Jason

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
Thank you Jason for the response.  I would say for the next two years single parts is all I will be doing, but at current reduced production rate, I would not even be surprise at six years, now.  Well, that is a new one for me, a skewed feature.  Just for my own info, is there any way of telling?  Please keep it simple, I am still trying to figure of this little beast.  Thanks.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

nOt really a feature, I just meant that maybe the feature (hole) was not normal somehow to the drawing view.

Another possibility, is the hole on a flat, cylindrical, or curved face? On cylindrical and curved surfaces, the hole edge would be a spline and not a circular edge and dimensioning could be difficult. In those cases I usually Insert the model dimensions or create an associative sketch circle in the drawing view contrained to the edge.

Jason

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
Thanks for the tip.  I am off to see the wiz, so to speak.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
OK, now I tried my tuffest part yet.  I am just tring to add the diameter of the lower bleed hole in the left view and both the upper and lower bleed holes give me that silhouette line statement again.  I would attach the file if I know how, but I don't see any place to attach a file.  Just not my day, week month,etc.  Thanks.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

Did you try split line again?

Chris
Sr. Mechanical Designer, CAD
SolidWorks 05 SP3.1 / PDMWorks 05
ctopher's home site (updated 06-21-05)
FAQ559-1100
FAQ559-716

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

How Can I Show An Image In A Post  FAQ559-1100


Helpful SW websites every user should be aware of FAQ559-520
How to get answers to your SW questions  FAQ559-1091

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
Chris, yes I did, I first selected the plane with the circle which I used to extrude cut the bleed hole and then I select the drilled hole that the bleed hole goes thru.  I even tried using that on the show hidden edges and still nothing but that statement.  It would be nice to be able to attach a compressed file, like the dbase formums do, but I see that is not possible here.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

see CBL's suggestion to show us a picture

Chris
Sr. Mechanical Designer, CAD
SolidWorks 05 SP3.1 / PDMWorks 05
ctopher's home site (updated 06-21-05)
FAQ559-1100
FAQ559-716

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

Is the hole on a flat surface or round?

Jason

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
Jason, not so lucky and to make it worse there are four .125 dia bleed holes in this mess, 2 on each end.  This is a tee-coupler body, and it has a .505 dia hole with a 70 degree seat in each end.  The .505 dia is .469-.484 deep and the center point for the bleed holes is almost where the seat starts and the hole ends and it is at a 34 degree angle using a extrude cut with thru to next.  The actual center point is .438-.469 deep, right where the bleed hole meets the .505 dia.  Am I making my self clear enough for you to understand?
Chris, which would you like to see, the part or the drawing?  Please let me know and I will see if I can do it.  Thanks again for the help.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

The part and the dwg to get a better understanding.
See the faq on how to show pics here.

Chris
Sr. Mechanical Designer, CAD
SolidWorks 05 SP3.1 / PDMWorks 05
ctopher's home site (updated 06-21-05)
FAQ559-1100
FAQ559-716

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
Well, SW has this now.  Our vendor's tech staff took one look at it and agreed that there was a bug in it and off it went to SW, probably never to be seen again.  Thanks anyway.

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

I doubt that will be the case quest4k. If your VAR is helpful in way they will at least send you the SPR# and if they don't in about week or so. You should call and get that from them.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376

RE: Bleed Hole can not be dimensioned in Drawing

(OP)
Thank you for the tip.

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