HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
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Recently myself and 2 other engineers joined a new company, we are structural, mechancal and electrical engineers in the building design field.
The architectural cad group at this company does all their dimensioning and text in paper space. We have never seen this and do not want to change doing text in model space. However, we do text for specs and standard details in paper space.
As designers we like to work this way. We are told we are old fashioned!
Who is right here? Can we have a split standard in-house?
The architectural cad group at this company does all their dimensioning and text in paper space. We have never seen this and do not want to change doing text in model space. However, we do text for specs and standard details in paper space.
As designers we like to work this way. We are told we are old fashioned!
Who is right here? Can we have a split standard in-house?





RE: HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
Flores
RE: HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
RE: HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
This is a battle I have been fighting for 10 years. You (and the rest of us) are likely to be fighting it for at least another 10. Count your lucky stars...at my current job and my previous one, CADD was/is done in two different softwares - ACAD and Terramodel there, ACAD and Microstation here. That exacerbates the battle you've described, and countless others.
Terramodel has Plan, Sheet and Profile views. These are kinda-sorta-but-not-really like Model and Paper space. Microstation has none of the above...everyone just slaps down a title block, then rotates, trims, extends and scales things it until it looks like a drawing. Wait until you try to work on a file created in either one of those softwares...my condolensces ahead of time.
Remember: The Chinese ideogram for “crisis” is comprised of the characters for “danger” and “opportunity.”
-Steve
RE: HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
The only solution I found was to move the text and dimensions to model space and then add my details. What a pain.
David
RE: HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
Layouts have been out for over 5 years in ACAD, and if someone is just now stumbling on them, You will need great help if you ever have to leave that company for another job.
It may take some getting used to, but you should hang in there and not be afraid to learn new things. In 1998, a fellow CAD person told me "you better learn 3D, because in 2004 it is projected that 60% of the CAD industry will be using 3D". It didn't reach that high of course, but I was way ahead of the game.
What does that have to do with anything? I have seen some fellow employees come and go because a boss basically stated "If you can't do it, we'll get someone else here who can".
Flores
RE: HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
RE: HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
When I dimension in paper space, it's usually for a close-up detail, it's definitely better to keep the model space drawing simpler.
So I guess it really depends on what you're doing. However, for those that exclusively dimension in paper space, I'd like to hear some good methods, such as ways to more easily link the paper space dimensions to the objects in the viewport, etc.
sundemon
RE: HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
RE: HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
There certainly are times when it works great to put dimension and notes in paperspace, but I wouldn't go as far as saying it's the only way to do it. I'm sure I could come up with just as many arguments to say model space is the only way (which is not at all what I'm saying!)
I think you should be able to do it how you feel most comfortable. If they still insist, you could use the express tools command changespace (chspace) to convert all of your notes and dimensions over to paper space when you are finished.
RE: HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
RE: HELP-MODEL/PAPER SPACE TEXT BATTLE
All I'm saying is it can be a good technique, but you need to be comfortable with it, and know what to expect from it.