Punctuation in notes
Punctuation in notes
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Well, we thrashed it out before about using capital letters in drawing notes. What do you all do about adding commas and periods? Some of our drawings have periods after everything, even in notes attached to a dimension, and some use none at all. For example:
1. Same as P/N XXX except as shown. Can be made from P/N XXX.
or
1. Same as P/N XXX except as shown
Can be made from P/N XXX
or
1. Same as P/N XXX except as shown, make from P/N XXX
I tend to leave them off of single statements and add them if there is more than one sentence in a note. I didn't see anything in ANSI Y14.5 but that is the only standard I have.
1. Same as P/N XXX except as shown. Can be made from P/N XXX.
or
1. Same as P/N XXX except as shown
Can be made from P/N XXX
or
1. Same as P/N XXX except as shown, make from P/N XXX
I tend to leave them off of single statements and add them if there is more than one sentence in a note. I didn't see anything in ANSI Y14.5 but that is the only standard I have.





RE: Punctuation in notes
RE: Punctuation in notes
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RE: Punctuation in notes
If I am adding some little tidbit to a dimension, I do not worry too much about grammar. If I am placing a note on a drawing, I write it out in full sentences and paragraphs with commas and periods, in block capitals, of course. As you might already have guessed, I can touch type.
All those non-typists out there have to get their work done too. I would be tolerant of point form notes, as long as they are correct, and I can make sense of them.
JHG
RE: Punctuation in notes
I don't think paragraph form is required, but on the same document, all written data should probably be in the same format.
I was told never to use periods in abreviations on drawings. (We try to never use abreviations, but for some things spelling it out would be silly.)
For instance;
INC instead of Inc. (Incorporated)
NC instead of N.C. (Normally Closed)
Thanks
SC
RE: Punctuation in notes
RE: Punctuation in notes
"NO" could mean; no, normally open, number, etc.
Thanks
SC
RE: Punctuation in notes
I use periods and commas when needed in drawing notes, but not anywhere in the drawings body. I also do not use periods with abbreviations.
If a note is referenced somewhere in a dwg, i.e. "1. Blah blah blah (the 1. has a triangle around it)", the triangle in the body has only "1" ... without a period.
Chris
Sr. Mechanical Designer, CAD
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RE: Punctuation in notes
RE: Punctuation in notes
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RE: Punctuation in notes
RE: Punctuation in notes
Chris
Sr. Mechanical Designer, CAD
SolidWorks 05 SP3.1 / PDMWorks 05
ctopher's home site (updated 06-21-05)
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RE: Punctuation in notes
You should not say DRILL on drawings. :)
I try to avoid saying THRU. Regardless of what ASME Y14.5M-1994 says, the specification should be made unambiguous, somehow. Adding drawing views is trivial with 3D CAD. Sometimes, saying THRU is the only way.
JHG
RE: Punctuation in notes
Not always that easy to add another section. The letters might get in the way of other dimensions, you might not have much room on the sheet for another view, or you might have to create a partial section and clean it up. THRU is the lazy man's way out. My specialty.
RE: Punctuation in notes
RE: Punctuation in notes
SEC24.4.2 - Use of periods. Periods are used with abbriviations which spell whole words to provide clarity and avoid misinterpretation.
RE: Punctuation in notes
And I like a tight drawing, but sometimes you can be TOO minimalist in your approach. Generally, if it needs it, I put "THRU" on a callout because I don't want to force the reader to hunt all over the dwg for a view. Besides, a thru hole doesn't require a view and neither does a hole of depth. The only time I require a view is when the depth is defined from a surface other than the surface of entry--like a hole that stops .250 from the side it would break through.
As for having to change the dwg if the hole changes (I think that was the objection) I use SolidWorks, and use the "Hole Wizard" and the "Hole Callout" function whenever I can. The "Hole Callout" function reads the depth data from the hole in the model and puts all the data in the hole callout. Then, if it changes the drawing updates automatically.