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Exclamation Mark [!] After File Names in Title Bar

Exclamation Mark [!] After File Names in Title Bar

Exclamation Mark [!] After File Names in Title Bar

(OP)
I will be glad if someone tells me the meaning and/or usage of the '!' mark that sometimes comes after the file names...

Best regards

RE: Exclamation Mark [!] After File Names in Title Bar

an exclamation mark next to the part name means you have something outdated- wave geometry, mating condition(s).

i don't know if there is a possibility for something else to make a part file outdated.

_____________________________________
"...standards are great because they give nonconformists something to not conform to..."
_________________
PI Penkov
Non-standard Equipment Designer
 

RE: Exclamation Mark [!] After File Names in Title Bar

(OP)
Pennkoff first of all thanks for your help.

It is for sure that something is outdated in the file. But how to update it??

Let me tell you my case: I have an assembly file with some parts 3d constrained (such as mated etc.). Now the file name in the title bar ahs an '!' mark trailing. I update session using >Assembly>Update Session but ! still stays.

I also update the drawing attached to it. But I cant get rid of the '!' mark.

Have any advice??

Regards

RE: Exclamation Mark [!] After File Names in Title Bar

Drkwing,
   I've run across this on occassion and resolving the issue can be a pain, especially with large assemblies.  What I've found is that a component loaded has changed somehow from when it was originally loaded or is 'out of date'.  
   My (sometimes painful) solution is to load the assy 'as saved', with no components loaded.  I then manually go through (1 by 1) each component and fully load it.  When the '!' appears, I know where the problem is.  I then close all parts and clear my cache....then preload the offending part making sure it's up to date. You may have to go through this process a few times if a sub-assy is the issue...
   Then go ahead and re-open the original assy as you normally would.  At this time, you shouldn't see the '!' mark btw...  Save the file.  If your using Teamcenter, IMAN, or some flavor of PDM, force an update to the load structure (UG pulldown menu 'tools' > UG/MANAGER > update precice structure).  Save again...
   Hope this helps...

SS

RE: Exclamation Mark [!] After File Names in Title Bar

Shadowspawn,

{File -> Close -> Reopen modified parts} might save you a few steps (or it might not depending on your specific situation, but I'd give it a try). The manual method sounds very tedious.

RE: Exclamation Mark [!] After File Names in Title Bar

Cowski,
   I haven't had any luck with doing that, as the problem seems to (usually) be a difference between what UG wants to load and what Tce (our pdm tool) says UG should load.  The only efficient means for getting rid of the pesky "!" symbol is to find the offending part, sub-assy, or assy and get the two to agree.  It's been a long time since I've worked in a native UG environment so perhaps your approach is better suited if you don't have a pdm tool to contend with.  
   Either way, there's an out-of-date part (or assy) somewhere in the assy tree that needs to be corrected.  Ug wants one 'something' that the offending part isn't providing.  Finding this part, pre-loading it into your assy, and forcing an update to the assy structure seems to be the only way I've been able to fix the problem or issue.
   I don't ever recall having this problem until the pdm tool was brought into the mix, perhaps someone can weigh in whether there's an easier way to fix the issue if a pdm tool isn't involved.  I'd love to hear it...

SS

RE: Exclamation Mark [!] After File Names in Title Bar

I guess I'm "fortunate" enough to be in a native environment. It's not often that I see the exclamation mark (but then we don't use wave linking or assembly constraints) and when I do 99% of the time it is safe for me to ignore (because the task at hand doesn't need everything updated right that minute).

Admittedly, ignoring it isn't the best solution but it is all I have to offer right now!

RE: Exclamation Mark [!] After File Names in Title Bar

hi guys

for finding the outdated pest isn't it easier to scroll up-down in assembly navigator looking at the column called "out of date"?

when a part is outdated there should be a clock-like sign. first you have to right click and "expand all" of course.

i'm in native ug

_____________________________________
"...standards are great because they give nonconformists something to not conform to..."
_________________
PI Penkov
Non-standard Equipment Designer
 

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