Will solid modeling enter Residential/light Commercial
Will solid modeling enter Residential/light Commercial
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Coming from the Construction management side of the equasion I thought I would ask the experts in This area (engineers) how you folks see the future of Solid modeling/PLM in relationship to smaller scale Construction. Obviously Gehry has been pushing the envelope from an architectural side for larger structures, will this happen in smaller structures, and if yes, what system is poised to best exploit this. We've been looking at Revit (poor), Catia(BIG) and have been recently looking at Solid edge. From the Engineering side, does this make sense for you folks in the work flow of design/engineering/production.
Builder looking for a better way,or (could be just nuts..:D)
David thurman
Builder looking for a better way,or (could be just nuts..:D)
David thurman





RE: Will solid modeling enter Residential/light Commercial
In short, construction-industry has rejected the 3-d modeling approach right since the beginning and does not look receptive to this shift. I don't think it is going to change in next 5 years.
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RE: Will solid modeling enter Residential/light Commercial
There is undoubtedly an up-front investment required in switching to solid modelling, and a proper PIM strategy. If every job is unique, and version control is not an issue, and your analysis tools can't or won't work from the solid model database, then there is no particular reason to switch. For our jobs we try to work on 70% carryover parts, version control is a huge issue, and our analysis tools are integrated (to some extent) into the CAD database, at least to the extent that we rarely have to type in the geometry twice. So for us it is now a no-brainer.
Incidentally one aspect that is easy to overlook is that if you have a true solid model then ANYONE in your organisation can interrogate it if they have an appropriate program. That may not sound significant, what it means is that everyone is working off a model that is at most a week old. I'd say almost all of our design discussions use this approach now, rather than looking directly at a CAD screen.
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Greg Locock
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RE: Will solid modeling enter Residential/light Commercial
I have worked with Pro-E and a bit with Solidworks. There are Pro's and Cons associated with any software and all need to be evaluated based upon your need. Don't just follow a "canned" demo as you can only find out usefulness by throwing a real application (from your standpoint) at it. I have seen numerous demos fall flat just by asking "can it do ... for me?"
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RE: Will solid modeling enter Residential/light Commercial
I agree Civil engineering isn't going to lead the way, it'll be a part of an intergrated aspect coming from other aspect of the work flow.
Greg
you brought up what I wanted to know from a manufacturing side of the equasion. Right now we work off 2D's plan/elevation are always in conflict and often times critical design issues aren't addressed until we all get up to the point of doing it and it's OOPS we didn't figure for that and it's a mad scramble to fix it. Not that solid modeling would fix 100% of this but working off the model gives everyone a clearer picture of what's going on. That's been at least very limited experience.
PSE
In custom construction the process is much more complex with the owner being so involved. Visualization tools to help bring those who can't visualize in 3D up to speed more rapidly. I think you brought up a valid point, which program. My question back to the Engineering community would be Which program do you think would be a great solid modeler for Building woodframe construction. I'm getting a Demo on Solid Edge and am going to try it out. From what I understand they've expanded it's ability to handle more parts, it's relative easy to use, and it sounds like the creation of standard parts for reuse is good. I suppose the Ideal program would be one that could encapsulate the residential/custom construction industry and at the sametime be powerful enough to move into more complex forms and techniques of construction. Obviously it would need to tie into the backend Database, for specs, estimation, scheduling, accounting, group collaboration and what ever else might be relevant to that...
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