Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
(OP)
Anybody ??
In the past two years I moved from NT4.0 SP6.0 to XP SP2, new video card with much more memory, from SW2001 --> 2003 -->2004 ---> 2005 SP 0.1
And LAYERS (on the drawing) was always a problem - it does not work about 60% of the time as it should (wrong display of colors, line types/thicknesses, often refuses to move to specified layer (Component Line Font), etc.)
Am I really doing something wrong ? What's others opinion ?
In the past two years I moved from NT4.0 SP6.0 to XP SP2, new video card with much more memory, from SW2001 --> 2003 -->2004 ---> 2005 SP 0.1
And LAYERS (on the drawing) was always a problem - it does not work about 60% of the time as it should (wrong display of colors, line types/thicknesses, often refuses to move to specified layer (Component Line Font), etc.)
Am I really doing something wrong ? What's others opinion ?






RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
We put "solid objects" on those layers. Those layers (like all others) have different colors.
This is when we have 98% of problems
Dimensions, notes - never a problem.
Sometime problem with layer CENTER, where we put center lines, created with icon that looks like a "cap screw". But again, this is created by touching "extremities" of the solid body.
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Alex
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
You may want to take another look at this. Layer is OK, but not necessary.
Alex
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Why not ?? The SW Help says this:
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Alex
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
I really thinking your making an incorrect statement rgrayclamps.
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
I do NOT have ANY revision table
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Revision table in SW is a wonderful thing. Give it a try, I bet you will love it.
Rockguy:
If you follow ANSI or other standards, you can control all those things (color, line weight and visability) without using layers at all. Most peoples use them because they have not forgot AutoCAD yet.
Alex
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Also, if you use component line font with colored layers in 2005, your plots will take much longer. (due to be fixed sp1?)
Using component line font and colored layers is 1 way to get a per part layered DWG from your SldDrw without mapping tables or macros.
Putting the offending views on another sheet or toggling the [x] Use document defaults (setting in the Component Line Font dialog) can get around the issue.
DesignSmith
www.DesignSmith-Services.com
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Exactomundo ... and much more is not right ... You do not even need configurations, to have things messed up.
What really ..... me off is the fact that those problems seem to be "random". You can have one assy dwg O.K. and next dwg, of similar complexity - messed up
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Your last statement brings to mind a similar situation that drove us nuts. It turned out that we had drawings (and for that matter part and assembly files) created on different machines. We found that our problem was the default templates for these files were different from machine to machine. We eventually got everyone to agree on the settings for these default files and then we pointed everyone's machines to a location on the network where we were all using the same templates. You might look into this.
- - -Dennyd
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Thanks, will investigate.
In the mean time - just 5 minutes ago I added another projected view to 2 already existing views on the dwg.
The previous 2 views had the (simple) assy "objects" (parts) on layer called OBJECT (layer color=green, diplayed color=green, O.K.).
The just added projected view "apparently" is on layer OBJECT (if checked with Component Line Font)
BUT:
the displayed color=black (like layer None, NOT O.K.)
All parts, assy, dwg were made by myself, within one day, on the same machine, the same OS, SW etc., etc. I can not force it (with Component Line Font) to have it displayed green
And when I turn OFF the layer OBJECT , the 2 original views are OFF but the new view is ON, thou as I mentionned earlier, Component Line Font says it's on OBJECT thus should go OFF (thou is displayed as black, which would suggest that is on layer None thus visible).
Any clues what I am doing wrong ??
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
For the past half an hour or so, I worked on some other dgws/parts (full screen), but that "wacky" dwg I was refering to earlier, was open, thou not on the screen ...
I just clicked Windows (in SW session) and selected that "wacky" dwg - et voila - this projected view is now displayed in GREEN (proper color of layer OBJECT) and if I turn OFF the layer OBJECT then that view disappears too.
What the hell is going on ?? Before that neither REFRESH icon, nor CTRL-Q were of any help.
I must add that I observed this kind of strange behaviour on some other dwgs in the past.
Totaly baffled ....
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Are they both certified by SW for SW05 for use on XP/SP2?
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
I have nVidia Quadro FX500
Until about an hour ago the driver was 6.14.10.5303
The IT guy just installed 6.14.10.6573
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Now when (on the dwg) I go to a view and use Component Line Font and try to change the LAYER, LINE, THICKNES (of that new added part) it sometime changes, but sometime not.
This can be split further - when it changes it sometime changes in ALL views (selected ALL), but sometime it changes in one view only.
It tried to do this changes by selecting part either in dwg Management tree or in the graphics area. No difference.
I even suspected, that maybe the "settings" in that Component Line Font window are reversed (that is Selected View means ALL and ALL means Selected View). No.
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
-Jason
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
In my case it's only the "parts" (that is the "metal") that do those weird things.
So far I never had a problem with dwg "entities", that is DIMENSIONS, NOTES, BALLOONS ... etc.
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
-Jason
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
Yeap ... that happened to me too :-((
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
The problems with LAYER on the dwg remain. Some stubborn "metal" refuses to be moved to another layer. I tried Componet Line Font, also tried open LAYER "Window" , had LAYER to be moved to "current" (yellow arrow pointing to it), selected "metal" than clicked Move on that open LAYER Window. No luck.
It's hard to believe, as some have suggested, that it might be the card or the driver.
I mean I have 3rd card, second computer (Dell) and second OS within past 6-8 months.
This is most probably a nasty SW bug. Or, as I feel, SEVERAL bugs !!!
The LAYER function is messed up !!!
RE: Has anybody got impression that LAYER function is totally messed up ?
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Scott Baugh, CSWP
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