Finding 2005's response time slow
Finding 2005's response time slow
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Since installing SWX2005 I find the response time very slow,is anyone finding that problem or am I in the wrong to blame 2005
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RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
You should check your video Card drivers, Clean out all your TEMPs, If you did an upgrade from SW04 to SW05 you should uninstall clean out your Registry and Reinstall. The FAQ of this Forum should help you with a lot of this.
How do I see what my hardware and drivers being used are? - FAQ559-1027
How do I set the Software OpenGL option in SW? - FAQ559-1058
Alternative to try before reinstalling - FAQ559-507
Backing up Important SW files - FAQ559-874
How do I do a clean uninstall & reinstall of Solidworks? - FAQ559-488
Have you Cleaned out your TEMP Folder out lately? - FAQ559-884
And many more...
See http://www
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
3DVision Technologies
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
FAQ559-716 - SW Fora Users
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
I initially installed 2005 straight over 2004. Then removed 2004 completely and did a fresh 2005 install. It made no difference and it still hangs and then crashes, when in 2004 it would have had no problem.
Recently installed SP1 hoping that it would help but it is just the same.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
I see all kinds of stuff and my seat is always changing, due to other users settings, etc.. and my seat is still very stable and fast. Doesn't make a lot of sense, so maybe you guys should list your video card and drivers that are being used? try toggling the Software openGL to see if that makes a difference. See FAQ
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
3DVision Technologies
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
FAQ559-716 - SW Fora Users
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
I've been following this thread, as I am experiencing crashes and slow redraws also. The file sizes are around 20-30mb. They are bigger than I'd think they should be for as simple as they are.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
As for your "crashes & slow redraws" more info would help to determine what could be at fault. In FAQ559-716 there is a list of system related items which can be cut & pasted into a post & to witch you can add the relevant specs.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
Please list your video card and drivers - See FAQ on how to obtain that or see above.
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
3DVision Technologies
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
FAQ559-716 - SW Fora Users
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
cliff
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
Here is a list of Apps I have to have running all the timeduring a normal day of work:
1) Outlook 2000
2) IE Explorer - Our Web-based DB
3) IE Explorer - SW Web-based DB
4) Our local DB that I connect to over Terminal services
5) SW05 - With at least one assembly open
6) SW04 - This just runs idle until it's needed.
I do all this on a 2.4 Ghz machine with a Quadro 1100 FX using 53.03 drivers. I am running only 1 gig of RAM. My Virtual memory is set to 3 times for min and max RAM. I have 13.1 GB of HDD space left. My TEMP's get cleaned out once a week if I remember. I have to run a repair about once a month because of all the different options and files that come through here. I actually don't have an AV any where on this system. i have another system that covers that for me.
What else do you want to know?
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
3DVision Technologies
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
FAQ559-716 - SW Fora Users
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
What kind of agenda is this guy pushing, and why?
Read the Solidworks forum Scott. read all the other forums. Try using the software for practical applications.
Solidworks 2005 is NOT STABLE, NOT FAST.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
I just did a clean install, and had to do nothing with the AV software on the server since my SW installation is a stand-alone install.
I then updated to SP0.1.
I loaded a file with a linear pattern of 140 revolved shapes, and made a change to the base feature, then rebuilt the model. It locks up and stops responding. The file is 36mb, which, for the type of the geometry it is, seems pretty big. There are no free-form surfaces. Just two different tapered cylinder shapes, and some ribs patterned 140 times.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
Let me pull your shoe strings out of my throat, since you decided to jump down there. Obviously you are having some issues. Instead of jumping on me why don't you try posting your issues along with your Computer specs and maybe someone will help you.
I have been using SW for many years now 1995-96. So I have plenty of practice. In my job I have to change my settings almost everyday to accomidate other users settings. That alone can take a toll on my machine. But look at the stuff I run above, and my system is stable. Heck IMO, SW05 is more stable then SW03 or 04 every was. Now if your having problems, why don't you post to a new thread and try your luck there. But don't come in here on this thread and give me flack about how unstable it is. You can point out yours is unstable but don't try to tell me, that I'm full of $^%$.
If it's so unstable, then why did you make the move? You should fully test it before making the change. if you read any NG you would have read that. That was posted once a week during Beta! If this was decided by your IT or manager, then go take your Frustration out on him, not me. I have to take that all day long, and I don't plan on taking it here too.
Because it is for me and all my colleges here. I have no agenda! I have been in this NG way before you, plus I was in different job then I am now. Just because I work for 3DVision doens't mean I'm pushing anything. I'm not salesmen I'm a Technical person that has been working in SW probably way before you! I'm here to help people that want help. Not people that have to accuse others of crap that they are just too scared to face... Like Change!
How about we do a test? You find an assembly and send it me and we will test stablity and speed. You can't send me an already corrupted assembly, that would be unfair. Find a SW05 assembly that will open and I'lll test it with you. We can compare test. If you don't find that fair then you come up with a better solution.
Scott Baugh, CSWP
3DVision Technologies
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
FAQ559-716 - SW Fora Users
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
David,
140 linear Patterns of a revolved shape! Dang!! That would take awhile to open an rebuild under most any system. It has to rebuild that feature 140 times.
Patterns will kill your speed on most ant system as well has a number of fillets. So the problem(s) can be in the way files are designed and not really SW directly.
"Not responding" Is that what you see in the Task Manager? If so, did you check the CPU usage? If the CPU is a 0% then I would kill it and send the file to your VAR. Do give a few seconds, because I have seen where SW will stop CPU usage for a breif moment and if you see 0% you could have arrived at the same moment. If the CPU is doing something then leave it. Because SW is still rebuilding the file.
Please advise David!
Best Regards to you!
Scott Baugh, CSWP
3DVision Technologies
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
FAQ559-716 - SW Fora Users
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
Best Regards to you!
Scott Baugh, CSWP
3DVision Technologies
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
FAQ559-716 - SW Fora Users
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
These forums are for engineering professionals ... NOT engineering assholes.
Take your own advice & read the SolidWorks & other forums ... then post back here how many times SBaugh has asked for any form of remuneration ... to save you some time I'll give give you the answer now ... ZERO.
Like the vast majority of other members in this forum, his agenda is to learn & help others learn how to optimize their SW installations so that they can maximize their proficiency with SolidWorks ... of any version.
The time given to help other forum members is voluntary ... no reward is asked for nor expected ... because of that, assinine comments like yours are also not expected nor warranted.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
I deserved that, fair enough.
Sorry Scott, I should have taken a few deep breaths before my post, which was both personal and dishonourable, and I apologize for that. Your tips have helped me in the past and I appreciate it, really.
At the time of posting, we had similar crashes in different situations (SW2005 SP 0.1) which is a common occurance.
We have 4 licenses in our office, 13 in the UK and more in the US. Our VAR's supply and maintain our hardware, and we keep in touch world-wide to help resolve SW issues.
SW2005 has been very unstable and unpredictable, particularly with respect to the drawing package. There are too many publicly accounted for bugs in this release, and we believe it was let out far too early.
Again, aplogies for offending this forum. It will not happen again.
Scott- I will compile a set of files for you to evaluate, thanks for the offer.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
SolidWorks Sercive Pack: 0.1
Operating System & Service Pack: XP SP2.0
Graphics Card and Driver version: NVidia Quadro 4 900XGL 6.14.0010.5303
Amount of installed RAM: 1024MB
Virtual Memory settings: 1536MB
CPU Type & Speed: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) 2.2GHz(Dual Processors)
Sorry Scott for getting you into this 'Handling'(as we say here in Ireland),that guy was pretty sore on you.I've posted my details above.I had received the file in as an iges file at first and have now saved it and is carrying out some more work to it.The virgin file was created on Pro E Wildfire and it's about 6MB in size.It might be fair to say that it's only occurring with a couple of these files as I have opened a few others and found them to be okay.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
Dell Precision 2.8 Ghz, 512 MB RAM, NVIDIA QUADRO FX 500.
When I re-installed 2005 I used regedit to remove any traces of 2004.
I just increased the paging file to a max of 3 times it's normal size and that seems to have helped a bit.
"Patterns will kill your speed on most ant system as well has a number of fillets. So the problem(s) can be in the way files are designed and not really SW directly."
I thought that the whole point of patterns was to reduce the amount of computing power required by simply replicating components and features?!? I use that feature quite a lot.
Will have a look at the NVIDIA website and try and download the latest driver.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
Everything you ever wanted to know about my system.
SolidWorks Sercive Pack: SP0.1
Operating System & Service Pack: WinXP SP2.0
Graphics Card and Driver version: Nvidia Quadro FX1000
Driver version 6.14.0010.5303
Amount of installed RAM: 20GB
Virtual Memory settings: Minumum 2mb Maximum 4096mb
CPU Type & Speed: Xeon 3.2Ghz
Assembly Statistics:
Recent changes to system: none
Recent changes to file/document: trying to edit sketch of patterned feature
Does problem exist on other computers: no… I’m only one running solidworks
Does problem exist with other files: yes.
Time of this report: 11/16/2004, 15:21:47
Machine name: ENGINEERING
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
System Model: Precision WorkStation 450
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Page File: 220MB used, 3788MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA Quadro FX 1000
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: Quadro FX 1000
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0309&SUBSYS_018210DE&REV_A2
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1600 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.5303 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 11/17/2003 10:33:00, 4323968 bytes
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
I do packaging solutions, and the object is to cram as much product in a given amount of space (tote, pallet, sea-container). I need to find a way to create these and have Solidworks remain useable. solidworks was here when I was hired, so I don't have much choice but to use it.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
To all postees with slowness problems ...
In general, a part formed by one complex sketch which includes multiple holes, slots, chamfers, etc, will regen faster than a part with multiple features with individual simple sketches.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
thanks
cliff
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
solidmail,
Apology Accepted! Now lets get down to the nitty gritty of the problems. Hopefully some of us can get some speed and stability back.
Everything looks good here in the respect of Hardware and video driver.
IGES file - Not the best form of translation. Translating files breaks down like this.
1) Parasolid
2) Step
3) IGES
4) ACIS
But if that is all you have to work with, then we work with it.
When you got the file in did you have too or better yet did you run a Diagnose on it? Did you run a Tools\Check on the file?
Maybe the file in the beginning had some problems (General Faults) If you have a part that has general faults and you don't remove those faults and repair it. Your going to be haunted by them later down the line of the files history. You could lose speed, and stability because of it. You could lose more but those are the first 2 that you will lose. Check those few things out if you can.
You didn't list your video card driver. But SW still shows the 53.03 driver to be the driver to use with SW05.
Another thing to note, Your only using 512MB of RAM. I don't recommend anything below 1 gig and that was when SW04 was out.
Patterns don't increase speed, they decrease it. Because that pattern must be rebuilt. It might be only one feature, but inside that feature it is rebuilding it "X" amount of times.
See my conclusion at the end of this post
I only quoted what I found different between your machine and my own.
I'm honestly still running SP1 of XP. Until SW05 SP1.0 is out. SW says it supports SP0.1, but I plan to wait until 1.0 comes out.
You listed DirectX Version 9.0c - I show 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)
Our systems are close with a few exceptions. You have a faster CPU and more RAM then me. Your Virtual Memory is set higher also.
Have you seen this News letter? - htt
See my conclusion at the end of this post
Cliff I have to admit I have not opened anythign up at that size. I think my system would probably choke on that large of an assembly... stable or not. It's honestly hard to say because I have opened some large ones up before, but I couldn't quote you the size and I was able to maintain stablity. I'll see if I can find a large assembly somewhere and open it up.
The best way is to install SW05 next to your SW04 and test it out. With that large of an assembly I hope your opening the file in Lightweight mode?
In conclusion try some of these:
1) Try turning down the Hardware accelration . RMB your Desktop and select properties\ Settings tab\ Advanced\ Troubleshooting Tab and pull that slider to none and test your files.
2) Use the feature statistics to find your slowest Feature. These will inform you what is taking the longest. Then you can try to make it less Complicated so it will possibly speed it up.
3) htt
I might add more tomorrow afternoon. It’s late and If I forgot anybody please forgive me and let me know. If you want to talk offline, shot me an email and I will reply ASAP.
Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
3DVision Technologies
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com
FAQ731-376
FAQ559-716 - SW Fora Users
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
I've been doing some tests with SW2005 SP0.1 on a portable 1.6MHZ PentiumM, with 512MB RAM, running WXP SP1. I don't know how to compare the PentiumM machines with the "normal" Pentium machine. It's not a slow machine, but we have faster PC's running SW (I've made some comparing tests).
I've been testing a current project which as 747 components distributed among 5 level assemblies. The file has 8.6MB. I can work easely in this assembly and I'm far from pulling out my hair (wich is good, because there's no much left). With the main assembly oppened, I open and edit some parts and drawings, some of them having 2-3MB, and the rebuild time is fair enough.
I've been testing SW2005, in a regular basis, since SP0 was available for download. Never experienced a crash or low speed. If there where big issues with SW2005 (not referring some bugs, which is why I'm still running SW2004) I guess I would find them on my portable.
Regards
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
In 2004, if you open an assembly lightweight and switch configs, all parts are resolved. This is true even if you select a config in the Open dialog which is different from the last saved config.
In 2005, some parts are still resolved when you switch configs but not every one.
RE: Finding 2005's response time slow
Some slowness is opening older version files in 2005 as it must do some conversions as it opens them. Once saved in 2005 howver, they are fast again.
Jason Capriotti
Smith & Nephew, Inc.