Choose a process simulation model.
Choose a process simulation model.
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Hi.
I m a process engineer, and have done some simulation on HYSYS. I resently got a new job, where Im suppose to get into process simulation in the future, although the company has not chosen one particular model to use. I like HYSYS, but the company wants to have the options open, and then decide if HYSYS will be used or not. My question is; any recommondation for other simulation program but HYSYS, that take care of process related systems? And where can I get some information??
Thanks for your time:)
Annie
I m a process engineer, and have done some simulation on HYSYS. I resently got a new job, where Im suppose to get into process simulation in the future, although the company has not chosen one particular model to use. I like HYSYS, but the company wants to have the options open, and then decide if HYSYS will be used or not. My question is; any recommondation for other simulation program but HYSYS, that take care of process related systems? And where can I get some information??
Thanks for your time:)
Annie





RE: Choose a process simulation model.
I think it depends on which system you are dealing with. In general, popular softwares for simulation in chemical engineering are
1. Aspen - now aspen has aquired HYSYS but still they are selling it separately. It has got lot of options and can do loads of things (solids, electrolytes, rate-based models etc.) Take a look at aspentech.com But people who use it think that it is good for general purposes and when it comes to separation especially related to refinery then HYSYS has advantages.
Aspen has aspen customised modeller where you can program and make your own model which will be solved using powerful solvers in the aspen.
2. HYSYS - you know about this
3. PRO-II - This is not much known in academics but it is widely used in industries. It is recommended as it is user friendly and you can put your data easily (this option i was told by my friend but i have no in detail idea). this from simsci.
if you have some special needs then it is worth to look at some small software companies who are expertise in that particular area. e.g. for amine system TSWEET is very popular in the industry.
I hope this information is useful to you.
Prashant
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ProII is one of the easiest to learn!!! The graphical user interface and the ability to put exchanger data into a spreadsheet makes this program a lot easier to put refining and most chemical processes through a lot of "what-if" situations... I have used HCOMP, HYSIS, ASPEN and PRO-II. As with all simulators there is a steep learning curve, but give it three full days. AND CALL THE SUPPORT LINES OFTEN!!!
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Especially good to design control systems!
C.
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So the choice will depend on what type of process you want to simulate most.
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Also - I meant to say electrolyte modeling - not electrodynamic modeling!! Oh well....maybe I will learn how to speak some day!
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With dynamic modeling I meant exactly the same as you. These heat exchangers, distillation and evaporation systems are controlled by process computers and that's what I model in Simulink. So the combination of unit operations with the control system around it.
Cheers,
CARF
RE: Choose a process simulation model.
Thank you all for good respons:) I will use all the advise I got, and look into the different simulation models, and hopefully I will choose the right one:)
The main use of the simulation, is for the oil and gas plant.
Homayun..Do you mean that Pro II does not longer excist? The new sim model is called Provision??
Thanx again!!
Annie
RE: Choose a process simulation model.
So they are basically the same, and you can actually forget about PRO-II.
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hth,
chris
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Ben Spooner, P. Eng
Process Engineer
Amine Experts Inc
Calgary, Alberta
RE: Choose a process simulation model.
Keep in mind that you usually have to pay for extras in HYSYS e.g. Amine treating, batch processing, Dynamic analysis etc. Also, rigorous analysis of heat transfer equipment will require separate software which can utilize the HYSYS property models, ditto for complex pipe networks.
I don't have the experience with the cheaper packages out there (e.g. WINSIM, CHEMCAD) but though they have been used by some companies, most of the big players standardize on HYSYS or PROII.
Hope this helps
RE: Choose a process simulation model.
After using several simulators (T-Sweet, HYSYS, ProTreat) extensively I have found my preference to be ProTreat for the most part.
Ben Spooner, P. Eng
Process Engineer
Amine Experts Inc
Calgary, Alberta
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RE: Choose a process simulation model.
Write a matrix with the most relevant aspect for you and your colleagues (including your boss) and evaluate each topic in each simulator. You can ask to the two companies (Aspen, Simsci) for a two moth trial licensee and get a better approach of each one the most popular simulator.
If you need more detail please send a letter to cperezg@telcel.net.ve
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I guess I can not be exposed to these process simulators until I get the relevant employment. Is there any place in Toronto area where I can familiarize myself with these soft wares ?