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How do I snap block to a point on view ??

How do I snap block to a point on view ??

How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)
I have created a block, leader "black dot" and "base origin" on the top of each other and located where I want it (within the block)

How do I "snap on" this "base origin" (of the block) to a point on the view ??

The point on the view was created on the view as a midpoint on the line, which in turn was "snaped on" the ends of "edges of solid model".

I want the location to be acurate (snap on) not just "approximately" positionned.

(Actually the block came from ACAD dwg, part of machine, which I want to show on the SW assy dwg)

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)
I guess I wasn't kina clear - thou your answer still might be NO - you can not ...

Forget for a moment how I got a point on the view. It is there - and I want "origin of the block" (I think it's called Base point) to "snap on" (sit on the top of) the point of the view. It is a "physical" point ( an asterisk *).

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

Have you tried dragging the point of the block to the sketch point?

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

Ctopher is right.  In SW2005 when inserting the block drag it over the point you want to snap to and you will see the curder change.  I know it works,I have been doing it all day.

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)
>... Have you tried dragging the point of the block to the sketch point? >

SW2005  Windows XP

Yes, I have. It does not work. As I said earlier, the "base point" and the "leader 'black point' " are on the top of each other. On the top of that, within the block, I created a point seating on the top of the above.

When inserting the block on the view, the mouse coursor points correctly to the "black point" and the "base point" (I know that because they are located at the intersection of two block lines, which are visible when back to the view), and the block follows the mouse pointer when dragged, BUT I CAN NOT SNAP ON TO ANOTHER POINT THAT I CREATED ON THE VIEW

Simply, the "view point" is not selectable - that is it does not change the color when the mouse coursor is near by or even (visually) on top of it.

Also, the "block point" (created within the block) does NOT show when the block is being inserted to the view.

Additionally, the FILTER is grey (that is not-selectable), thus I can not select POINT and BLOCK in the filter bar.

Any clues what I am doing wrong ??

Thanks for any replies.

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

Curious, are you using tools/sketch tool/move or modify?

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)
> Curious, are you using tools/sketch tool/move or modify?

Please elaborate, I don't uderstand.

When inserting the block, the block shows up on the view and when dragging, it follows up the mouse pointer - the problem is, the "view point" (an asterisk created on the view) is not selectable during the dragging process.

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)
Just thinking - mayby I should go some different route, something like create an Empty view, put the block there, then line up the views (by origin) - something like that ??

Just thinking loud

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

Jack,

OT here - You have the ability to use [quote]Please elaborate, I don't uderstand.[/quote] to quote somebody. Makes it easier to understand when your quoting someone:

Quote:

Please elaborate, I don't uderstand.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com

FAQ731-376

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)

Quote:

If you activate your view then the block (note, etc...) will follow that view around.

Has nothing to do with following around - I just want the block feature (in the above case "base point") to SNAP ON (precisely, not approximatly) onto a view "feature" (in my case a point that was created on that view - an asterisk) - to SNAP ON WHEN INSERTING THE BLOCK ONTO A VIEW.

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

do you have a screen capture to show us?

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

When you create your block you have a definable origin point.  It is blue.  This is the point which will snap to drawing geometery on insert.  You can not add a sketch point to your block definition and use that to control the placement of the block.  When you insert the block if you drag the origin of the block over view geometry an automatic relation will show up.

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

But it will also give you the ability to attach your Block to the Origin.

1) I just made a block and attached to an Origin and it didn't stay attached. The reason is because the view was active.

2) So I activated my view, inserted the same block and attached to the origin. Now when I drag my view the Block goes with it and stays attached.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com

FAQ731-376

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)

Quote:

When you create your block you have a definable origin point.  It is blue.

Yes

Quote:

This is the point which will snap to drawing geometery on insert.

Yes.

Quote:

When you insert the block if you drag the origin of the block over view geometry an automatic relation will show up.

This is where the things get s.... up. I even activated the Quick Snap on Tool Bar, picked up an icon Middle ... and a simple block ended up Way Off - not where it was supposed to snap.

Quote:

Now when I drag my view the Block goes with it and stays attached.

I am FARRRR away from that, I just want a block to be located properly on the view.

On a very general note - my first cad system was CADAM, in 1982, then CATIA, AutoCAD, CADKEY, and now SW.

Either I am icredibly stupid or SW is NOT very user friendly

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

Then activate the view (double clicking or lock view focus) attach it to something in the drawing view (Point, origin, I don't care) and the block will stay there.

I don't know what else to tell you but you can't add relationships to a drawing view or items inside a drawing whether it be a sketch or not.

I think your first problem is that you wtill think your in AutoCAD or Cadkey. Your in SW and you miust forget all that to use SW.

Regards

Scott Baugh, CSWP
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com

FAQ731-376

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

Yes,  click the view you want to insert the block in.  Drag the block in from the task pane design browser (SW2005).  The block comes sliding in and the cursor is attached to the origin.  Drag the cursor and block over the end point of a line or mid point, etc.  You will see the curser change to display a relation.  Drop the block.

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

Quote (jack3108):

Either I am icredibly stupid or SW is NOT very user friendly
A very limiting statement considering the vast majority of people find SW very user friendly ... which doesn't leave a good alternative for you

Have you tried recreating the block in SW? (yes I know you shouldn't have to ... but have you tried?)

Also, I'm curious as to why you would want to create a simple leader with a "black dot" as a block. SW can create that style leader for you & allow you to place it wherever you want.

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

jack3108

OK I just tried at home & have the same problem as you, but I know I have done this before at work ... I will check tomorrow.
I am using an ATI Radeon 7000 at home & a nVidia FX500 at work, both using SW04-SP2.1 on XP-SP1

What version of SW-SP, video card & OS are you using?

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)
Another thing - when trying to locate the block on the view and - before clicking OK, I click double cross red button, the block (or its ghost) REMAINS - the only way to "erase" it is to HIDE then SHOW the view.

I don't think you can blame the video card on it - to me it simply looks like another bug in SW.

When I said "SW is NOT very user friendly" I also ment - it's verrrrry bugggy ....

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

I don't follow what you mean?

Quote:

"Another thing - when trying to locate the block on the view and - before clicking OK, I click double cross red button"

What are you talking about?

If something is still there Or a ghost, then that is a graphic card or driver issue. Your fix for this is simpilier then that. If you Ctrl-Q, Refresh the screen, Minimize and maximize SW will probably fix it. Your at home video card is not support in green by SW. It has limitations. If your seeing this on your Work computer then you need to specify your Driver version. Using the wrong version and cause things lie this to happen.

I don't think it's very buggy at all. And I do Tech support all day long for SW, and most of the time it's the user that is causing the problem and not SW.

Have you checked to make sure you have 2D emulator turn off in your Add-ins?

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com

FAQ731-376

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)

Quote:

If you Ctrl-Q, Refresh the screen, Minimize and maximize SW will probably fix it

No, it does not.

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)
Nvidia Quatro FX500/FX600
Integrated RAMDAC
Memsize 128 Mb
BIOS INFO : 4.34.20.72.08

Drivers:

nv4_disp.dll      6.14.10.6176
nv4_mini.sys        ''
nvoglnt.dll         ''
nvcpl.dll           ''
nview.dll           ''
nvwdmcpl.dll        ''


Windows XP  SP 2

Computer:

Model:          Precision 330
Manufacturer:   Dell Computer Corporation
Type:           Desktop
Role:           Member Workstation
Asset Tag:      
Service Tag:    5FRZR01
Processor:      Pentium 4 1700MHz  (L1 cache: 8.00 Kb,  L2 cache: 256.0 Kb)   Ext.clock: 100 MHz
Proc.type:      Pentium 4
Quantity:       1
Proc.freq:      1700 MHz
L1 cache:       8.00 Kb
L2 cache:       256.0 Kb
Ext.clock:      100 MHz
Proc.socket:    Microprocessor
Family:         15
Proc.model:     0
Stepping:       10
Brand ID:       Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1700MHz
Serial number:  
Features:       SIMD instructions
                FXSAVE/FXRSTOR instruction
                MMX extensions
                36bit Page Size Extension
                Page Attribute Table
                CMOVcc (+FCMOVcc/F(U)COMI(P) opcodes
                Machine Check Architecture
                Page Global Extension
                Memory Type Range Registers
                SYSENTER/SYSEXIT extension
                Processor contains an enabled APIC
                CMPXCHG8B instruction
                Machine Check Exception
                Physical Address Extension
                Model Specific Registers
                Time Stamp Counter
                Page Size Extension
                Debugging Extension
                Virtual Mode Extension
                Built-In FPU
Bios:           A09 (11-Oct-2001)
Motherboard:    Precision 330  (Dell Computer Corporation) (Microprocessor)
Memory:         512 Mb (523 276 Kb)   RIMM_1: 256 Mb(RDRAM,RAMBUS,2.5 ns)   RIMM_2: 256 Mb(RDRAM,RAMBUS,2.5 ns)
Hard disks:     19.1 Gb (11.9 Gb free = 62.4%)    (4.45 Gb free on C: drive)
                     primary disk: IC35L020AVER07-0   size: 19.1 Gb   sernum: SVPTVLY6109
                     C:(Ntfs) 10.1 Gb (4.45 Gb free = 44.0%)
                     F:(Ntfs) 8.97 Gb (7.45 Gb free = 83.1%)

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

I didn't need all that information. I just wanted to know what station - "Home" or at "Work" and what the driver version was. You listed which station was using which card.


Anyway,

That driver is not supported by SW, and you should be using the 53.03 Certified driver.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP
http://www.3dvisiontech.com
http://www.scottjbaugh.com

FAQ731-376

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)

Quote:

That driver is not supported by SW, and you should be using the 53.03 Certified driver

Holly cow - our IT installed a wrong video driver !

Not done much testing, but already discovered, that on drawing view I can locate a dwg point on a line that belongs to the BLOCK. Before it was MISSION INPOSSIBLE !!

Thanks folks !!

RE: How do I snap block to a point on view ??

(OP)
- When I made a TEST BLOCK (4 lines, kina square) and attached the base point to an end of the line (actually a corner) and then go back to a view and insert it, it's O.K.
Then when trying to manouver the TEST BLOCK on the view, the base point lights up and shows as a green square dot. No problem to position it to say an end of a line drawn on a view. It SNAPS ON

- now, I have a REAL BLOCK which was about 308 kb file in AutoCAD and was COPY from AUTOCAD and PASTE into SW. The SW  dwg file increased from some 3 Mb to about 5 Mb. I have positioned the base point where I want it during REAL BLOCK edit. However after puting it on the view and subsequent selecting of the REAL BLOCK the green square dot does not show up and also SNAP to an end of a line drawn on view does not work.

- Did I improperly imported the stuff from AutoCAd and this is why it does not work properly,

or

it's because the REAL BLOCK is kina BIG ???

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