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welding 4140 air hard

welding 4140 air hard

welding 4140 air hard

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I have a sliding finger that needs new stub shafts to mount a bearing. These shafts are 1/2" dia. and 1" long made of 4140 air hard. These shafts must be welded into the finger that is made of mild steel. I have t-910 tig rod. What is the pre heat and post heat for 4140 air hard, and will this rod make a good weld on mild steel.

RE: welding 4140 air hard

The AISI Type 4140 alloy steel can certainly be welded to mild steel with a local preheat of 400 deg F. I am presuming certain things here by your statement of "mild steel". I would know for certain your "mild steel" base material composition, prior to welding, to assure your carbon content is less than 0.35%. The carbon equivalent for 4140 is approximately 0.75, meaning this base metal requires a preheat and subsequent stress relief (post weld heat treatment).

I am not sure about your choice of GTAW wire so my suggestion would be to use SFA 5.28 ER80S-B2. This filler metal would better match the 4140 and is very compatible for joining to carbon steel.

I presume the air hardening 4140 is normalized, with an average hardness of 300 BHN. I could not determine if your method of attachment will be by fillet weld or a partial penetration groove weld. Can you provide information as to your weld joint configuration?

After the completion of welding, you could either perform a local post weld heat treatment or if the component is small enough to handle, place it in an oven. The recommended post weld heat treatment temperature is 1075 deg F for 30 minutes at temperature to avoid softening the 4140 base material. The 1075 deg F PWHT will have little affect on the "mild steel" base material. Follow a gradual heat up and cool down ramp rate at less than 600 deg F per hour to avoid distortion.

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