U.S. Salary
U.S. Salary
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Hello,
I'm posting from italy.
My question regards u.s. salary.
I cannot understand what an u.s. 50k-60k entry level enginner salary means.
Is it a gross salary?
What is the net salary?
I mean, How much does an 50k-60k entry level engineer make a mounth, at the net of all?
Here in italy, on the average, an entry level engineer gains 1k euro at net.
I'm posting from italy.
My question regards u.s. salary.
I cannot understand what an u.s. 50k-60k entry level enginner salary means.
Is it a gross salary?
What is the net salary?
I mean, How much does an 50k-60k entry level engineer make a mounth, at the net of all?
Here in italy, on the average, an entry level engineer gains 1k euro at net.





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> Deduct Social Security Tax ~6.5%
> Deduct Federal Income Tax ~15%
> Deduct State Income Tax ~9%
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50k min-60k max.
IRstuff is correct.
Just curious, are you planning on moving to the U.S.?
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It still works out in favour of the USA, just not as much as you might think. Cost of living is a lot lower most places as well.
Meanwhile in Australia almost all professionals will be on a marginal income tax rate of 48.5%, plus health insurance (mine's 50 bucks a month, not a big deal, but not much cover either).
Cheers
Greg Locock
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After working for a French company for five years, I saw that the French employees had great health benefits, subsidized lunches and other things, lots of vacation time and holiday time, and what appeared to be lifetime employment. The method of getting ahead was not by achievement and initiative (was discouraged!) but by getting along well with fellow employees, if you went to the "correct" university, if you had the "correct" family name. It was generally a stress-free, but boring, discriminatory, and frustrating existence.
In the US, your salary is higher, but you have to pay (or choose not to pay) for your level of benefits, etc. Generally it is a meritocracy where one advances their career by achievement, sometimes by climbing over the dead fingers of your co-workers or working tremendous extra hours. There's more freedom in my opinion, but there's also more risk of getting terminated when the economy sinks.
TygerDawg
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A 2200 sqft 2-story house in Brea, CA goes for $600,000. Brea is a semi-industrial suburb in North Orange County.
Silicon Valley home prices are indeed high, but at this time, most of California is also on the bubble.
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100% more than 90,000 is 180,000, not 900,000.
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That's pretty good! I'm in the other side of OC, you can't touch a house that size for that price here.
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It is really hard to compare apples to apples between the US and Europe. I worked in the Netherlands for some time and tried to compare against them, and never really could decide who had the better deal. Housing in Holland is shockingly expensive, but housing in California is too. A lot of things that Europeans take for granted, we end up paying for in the US, like health insurance, and a good portion of retirement. The days of employer funded pensions a going away fast, although most employers will contribute to your 401 K retirement account as long as you do so as well.
Three weeks a year vacation is about the best you'll do, unless you put in more than 10 years with a company, which my European friends consider barbaric...
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You've probably figured this out by now, but no one spelled it out explicitly, so I will. The salary quoted is per year, not per month. So the average entry-level engineer MONTHLY NET pay is $2500 - $3500 USD, depending on location, tax status, etc.
Haf
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Wow, I wish I made that much. Probably shouldn't tip my hand too much, but I work in the automotive industry (design), have more than 6 years experience, and my net pay is in the lower/middle of the "entry level" range above.
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Part of it was bad timing... but I don't think they average in the zeros when they figure out this "average starting salary"! So my advice is- don't believe salary figures unless they are coming from somebody who's hiring!
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~NiM
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Go Mechanical Engineering
Tobalcane
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I also work for a Swiss-based company, who has different work ethics than the U.S. comapnies who tend to work you to death when times are good, then lay you off when times aren't. I also have great benifits, including 4 weeks vacation from the start.
I feel pain for anyone trying to find a job in the U.S. right now. There are so many out of work engineers that will work for peanuts just to get back into the job market.
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Don't think you need to live in a metro area to make this wage either. I have been always employed in rural areas (South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana) where the pay is average (according to the polls) and the cost of living is cheap. I own a rather small house (1700sq ft with several out buildings and a half acre). It goes for around $125,000. All this in a state with no sales tax (yes they have an income tax). Of the three states mentioned above, Wyoming and South Dakota are better than Montana as far as costs are concerned.
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I strongly believe prices will come down a good 20% or more around here, as hot markets did back in '91-92. Who the heck can afford a 30-year, $2500/month mortgage for a 2 bedroom house? Certainly not us engineers! From reading posts like this I get the feeling that my salary is in line with national averages considering I have 6 years experience, which isn't a good thing when you look at the cost of living around here. If my house cost $150k and I had 2 more bedrooms, I'd be much better off obviously. Just wanted to throw in my $.02
PS It's an interesting mix in this neighboorhood of mine. It has become one of the nicer communities that professionals like myself can still "afford" to buy into, while there are quite a few older families here from more "blue collar" backgrounds that have been here for years. The middle-class is slowly moving in and some of the less privileged folks are slowly moving out, cashing in on the housing market.
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I live in Queens, New York. A 2-bedroom/1-bath apt in Manhattan starts at $ 1,500,000. On top of mortgage you also pay a building maintenance fee (around $1,000 per month).
A 3,000 SF Townhouse would probably sell for $ 6,000,000.
Engineering salaries- probably in line with national averages. Now try and have a family in this city.
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This unique, 576-page publication reports the base salaries, other cash compensation, and total cash compensation of 8,963 members of ASME.
Nationwide, the median income of survey participants is $83,236.
The median income of some of the benchmark jobs investigated
were:
Research Director/Vice President ... $135,000
"Distinguished" Researcher ... $131,000
College/University Dept. Heads (11-12 mo. appt.) ...$125,000 Engineering Director/Vice President ... $123,100 Professor (11-12 month appointment) ... $120,000 Chief Marketing & Sales Executive ... $113,700 Environmental Manager ... $110,000 Consulting Branch Manager ... $103,500 Principal Consultant ... $102,000 Project Manager ... $95,000 Senior Engineer ... $84,000 Sales Representative ... $77,775 Intermediate Researcher ... $70,000 Project Engineer ... $63,775 Junior Researcher ... $50,047 Junior Engineer ... $50,000 Junior Consultant ... $42,700
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Least affordable places I know of with lots of high-tech jobs: SF Bay area, Orange County CA, San Diego CA, New York City, Los Angeles suburbs.
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NSPE released the 2004 salary survey earlier this week. It made me feel really good. For the first time in a 14 year career, I was a little over average. Here's the link to the website: http://nspe.salaries.com (You have to purchase the survey.)
For me, my job (plant engineer) is considered a Level 4 (GS11) engineer. (See the website for details.) The average salary for the southeast area of the country is ~$57000/yr (gross) with ~$4800/yr bonus pay (again gross). For this area of the country, as long as you're not living within a large metro area, that's a decent salary. (But as always, could be better...) And, health/company benefits can always make or break you.
As far as housing, I've been looking to build a new house and may have hit a gold mine. A 3000+ square foot home (new construction) and 30 acres of woodland (hills, a stream, and some flat land) is probably going to run me less than $200k to get built (including a long paved driveway). Typical houses in the area start around $40/sq ft to build and can run to $150/sq ft if you get fancy. I'd say the average is somewhere around $50-75/sq ft. Land is another story. I just happened to get very lucky. Typical 1 acre lot in a nice subdivision is ~$25000 to $40000. Sometimes living in a rural area has its privileges.
Again, my 2-cents...
~NiM
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www.salary.com.
This is a free service (a limited number of queries per day limit, though) that I found very useful when my daughter was searching and finally evaluating job offers after graduation. You enter the field, level of experience, and the geographic area.
The NSPE survey, which I obtained once a decade ago, is (or was) limited to those members of NSPE who responded to the survey, and hence is probably biased somewhat toward the higher earners.